Mosconi Cup 2024, Nov. 30-Dec. 3, Orlando

I totally agree with what you say and I stick to what I say every year after the American team got beaten in the MC:
The professional structure of pool leagues in Europe, and espacially Germany, is the driving factor for the consistent high performance of European pool players over the last two decades long before the professional structure by the WNT was established. There's a reason for that, that top pool players from all across Europe like Feijen, Filler, Lechner, Hohmann, Souquet, Bijsterbosch are/were attracted by the German Bundesliga. It's still the most competitive structure for pool billiard in Europe! This professional organisation of sports favours the natural outcome of skilled players...in any sport.
And as far as I see it, that's not the way how sport development works in the US.

in my experience, this structure benefit is true in some countries but not in others. here in sweden, yes good structure (but long travel distances). in UK, where shaw hails from, they have/had very poor structure for american pool. albania i wouldn't know but i would be surprised if they had a great structure. still produced kaci(s).

best country for an upcoming pool player in europe is probably the netherlands, with good structure, close to germany, tough competition and very short distance between cities within the country.
 
Fair enough, thats your view, I won't try to win you round on that one!
Dont get me wrong, they're both great to watch.

I wish all pool was like the MC, instead of like being in a church. Hell, you can't even yell F the devil in church, and we're supposed to hate the devil lol. Normal pool isn't much better.
 
How did he blow it? He was playing great and Mickey got some of the luckiest rolls in pool history.
4 - 4 after being up 4 - 0 and needing the other player to foul with a few balls left is blowing it - its like him and shane occupy the same body
 
Dont get me wrong, they're both great to watch.

I wish all pool was like the MC, instead of like being in a church. Hell, you can't even yell F the devil in church, and we're supposed to hate the devil lol. Normal pool isn't much better.

I agree with you on that, look at Hanoi, I bet the players enjoy that far more than all the other events!

Darts has pretty lively crowds and the players do okay, also the snooker shootout (which starts today) is very loud and Shaun Murphy hit a 147 last year so I think Pool players should be fine once they get used to it!
 
I refer to Jays long post. His comments are very valid but he is watching, as many of you, on whatever media. What you are not getting is what it is like in the venue. I was there yesterday. The music blared like at a pop concert. We could not converse with our neighbor without shouting into their ears. It only stopped during play and announcements. My ears are still ringing.

Then what you most likely did not get was the utter disrespect and rudeness displayed by the audience to the Euro players. The rude comments shouted out during their play was unreal. Every miss by them was greeted by jeers and comments. During the final doubles, when the Euro player was addressing the 8 ball, the entire audience erupted with USA USA USA in an attempt to put him off. Is this what we want in our pool events? I was ashamed to be an American.

I watched 3 or 4 Mosconi cups in Las Vegas and really enjoyed them. The atmosphere was great and some of the interaction between supporters was great. But at least all players were respected when lining up their shots.

This experience was so bad that I decided not to attend today. I just scrapped my tickets.

I saw Stu there. Would like his comments
I think your expectations for Mosconi are off... The jeering is a feature and not a bug. At the end, Jason thanked the audience for the engagement. I didn't care for the personal attacks with foul language but I had a great time and can't wait till next year!
 
We changed the rules, cheated basically, to remain relevant. We still got our ass handed to us, as bad or worse than ever. For the US, this event is in the toilet. Sad and pathetic.
 
Table and cue vendors can’t force people to open pool halls. In our area it’s just not profitable. You need a liquor license and in pa one of those is going from 400k to 500k. So all your places to play are bars with a couple tables. some pool halls exist in bigger cities but living in york if you want to play big table pool you have to be a member of a private club
Thats what's nice about living in Florida, there are so many housing communities that have fully equipped pocket billiard rooms as an amenity. The only time I go to a commercial pool room is when I want to compete in a tournament.
 
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Amazing a mere exhibit that means nothing gets 48 pages of comments. And some guy named Garczar commented 38 times. Wow.

That's some bigtime trolling going on!

Imagine how many pages of comments a real major would get. Oh, wait. Hanoi got 13 pages. The Euro Open got 17. The US Open did get 41 pages. Homers!

OK, OK, page views do not a major make. I still like the big opens best. But as this thread shows, lots of people pay attention to the Mosconi. Even those who profess not to. :eek:
Never watched a second of it to be honest. Just because i reply to all you MC addict's posts doesn't make it a real tournament. Nothing you say is going to change that. No one said people don't pay attention to it. Is it reading or the comprehension part you struggle with?
 
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