Mosconi Cup 2024, Nov. 30-Dec. 3, Orlando

skogstokig

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Why do you believe this? MR gave Johan the boot, after he coached the States to two consecutive victories. Do you think MR wants the States to win? Laughable!

what they probably don't want is to pay the price johan asks. that may be shortsighted, but otoh i don't know the price, none of us do

mosconi aside, a structured youth program is probably more important, johan has some good points there. there are a couple young players now that could either be future ranking event winners with the right training, or another generation of could've-beens
 

jbart65

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what they probably don't want is to pay the price johan asks. that may be shortsighted, but otoh i don't know the price, none of us do

mosconi aside, a structured youth program is probably more important, johan has some good points there. there are a couple young players now that could either be future ranking event winners with the right training, or another generation of could've-beens
The way I heard Johan explain it, seemed to me that MR didn't want Johan to participate at the request of the Skyler and U.S. team because it was supposed to be a player-coach event. Wouldn't seem fair to let Johan coach the U.S. side a week or two ahead of the event while the European sessions were player only.

Great interview, though. He pointed out the various shortcomings of the U.S. pool structure.

Seems to me U.S. pool needs some kind of Bradenton academy that pro soccer used for years until the rise of MLS. A place where the best young players from around the country can train every day, get fed, get schooled, etc. Problem, of course, is a source of funding. I don't see one coming along.

*Johan said Sky is one of the best talents he ever coached. Said Sky blew through his hardest drill whose record had stood for 18 years. But he noted that Woodward is a "family man" and doesn't practice enough to be that guy. He did not say in a judgmental way. Just stated the obvious.

Johan also said Sky was not a coach. Did as well as he could at the Mosconi. But he's not a coach. (-:

*Johan called the Mosconi the most important event in pro pool, even more important than any of the majors. He said it was the event that did most to raise player profiles and capture public awareness beyond a more narrow pro pool scene.

*Johan indicated Fedor and Niels have probably been his two best students. He said Niels once did the Mighty X drill for eight hours a day, six days a week, for six weeks. Crazy, I think he said. But Niels was determined to be one of the best.

*Johan said the two most important shots at the Mosconi were ... the lag and the break. He implied the U.S. did not do what was necessary to be up to par, or better, than the Europeans in either area.

*Johan noted the races to 5 require a different calibration than longer matches in other tournaments. He seemed to imply the European players took that more into account than the American players in shot selection.
 

jbart65

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Francisco Sanchez Ruiz was interview in Taiwan. Had this to say about the Mosconi:

"The last week, when we prepared for the Mosconi, it was so funny with the guys. I think that’s the best feeling of pool. To be like a family for almost two weeks. So this is unbelievable."

After playing well in the Mosconi:

“I think it is going to help me in the beginning of 2025 because, I mean, when you play there you feel so much pressure. When you play another tournament, it’s not even the same.

So I think the Mosconi helps you as a player to manage the pressure. I never felt like that, even the world championship, so I think the Mosconi is a harder tournament."

***

Aloysius Yapp said something similar after the Reyes and winning the MVP.

Don't think it is a coincidence that Yapp's confidence soared after the Reyes. He was having a very subpar year. Then after the Mosconi, he won the International Open and finished second at the Marboys Open.
 

jason

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Francisco Sanchez Ruiz was interview in Taiwan. Had this to say about the Mosconi:

"The last week, when we prepared for the Mosconi, it was so funny with the guys. I think that’s the best feeling of pool. To be like a family for almost two weeks. So this is unbelievable."

After playing well in the Mosconi:

“I think it is going to help me in the beginning of 2025 because, I mean, when you play there you feel so much pressure. When you play another tournament, it’s not even the same.

So I think the Mosconi helps you as a player to manage the pressure. I never felt like that, even the world championship, so I think the Mosconi is a harder tournament."

***

Aloysius Yapp said something similar after the Reyes and winning the MVP.

Don't think it is a coincidence that Yapp's confidence soared after the Reyes. He was having a very subpar year. Then after the Mosconi, he won the International Open and finished second at the Marboys Open.
I don't think we can even imagine what these guys feel. It truly is a special event with a different kind of pressure. The crowd is brutal, the pockets are tight, the weight of history-past, present and future all on the line, country pride, personal rivalries. Each year, in an inevitable battle, someone will be the goat and someone else the hero. No body is excluded from the opportunity to be on either end of the stick. At the end of it all, we all blessed with a friendly competition and an experience of the some of the worlds greatest talent. Can't wait until next year!
 

BasementDweller

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I don't think we can even imagine what these guys feel. It truly is a special event with a different kind of pressure. The crowd is brutal, the pockets are tight, the weight of history-past, present and future all on the line, country pride, personal rivalries. Each year, in an inevitable battle, someone will be the goat and someone else the hero. No body is excluded from the opportunity to be on either end of the stick. At the end of it all, we all blessed with a friendly competition and an experience of the some of the worlds greatest talent. Can't wait until next year!
I actually think a lot a amateur players know almost exactly how it feels. I contend that a player can only get so nervous. This maximum level of nervousness is experienced quite often by amateurs in larger team events. I've seen guys literally shaking while trying to runout a rack to win a hill-hill team match. Would they feel more nervous playing in the Mosconi Cup than that? Not sure it's possible. There's a level of confidence that professionals have, let help them deal with the nerves too, that the typical amateur doesn't possess. Stepping to the table and not knowing if you're even capable of hitting the cue ball under pressure can be overwhelming for many amateurs.

It can be brutal to watch.
 

spartan

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I actually think a lot a amateur players know almost exactly how it feels. I contend that a player can only get so nervous. This maximum level of nervousness is experienced quite often by amateurs in larger team events. I've seen guys literally shaking while trying to runout a rack to win a hill-hill team match. Would they feel more nervous playing in the Mosconi Cup than that? Not sure it's possible. There's a level of confidence that professionals have, let help them deal with the nerves too, that the typical amateur doesn't possess. Stepping to the table and not knowing if you're even capable of hitting the cue ball under pressure can be overwhelming for many amateurs.

Yes there is a max to level of nervousness even with pros.
It ain't Squid Game, you still get to live if you miss :ROFLMAO:
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