SeniorTom
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Yea right. It's not totally a different scenario betting $5/game, lunch/game, than $500/game??? lol, it's all relative?
Non-Gambling Pool Players
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InsertCleverNameHere
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Yes, $5 for one guy is like $500 to another.
When I was a pup that $5 meant whether I could eat or not that day.
Today $5 means nothing.
It’s relative.
Ah, yes, the only tax you can avoid !!
When you are in action everyday, the price of pool isn’t on the forefront of your mind. Just winning often as possible and staying in action is what really matters.
People who haven’t really gambled may not understand this. People who talk about the price of pool are showing their lack of experience
Having said all that, action pool is just about gone anyways, so really isn’t important now days.
Fatboy<——-been there, done that
People who haven’t really gambled may not understand this. People who talk about the price of pool are showing their lack of experience
Having said all that, action pool is just about gone anyways, so really isn’t important now days.
Fatboy<——-been there, done that
Some people play for the personal satisfaction, some for the action. I know guys that are 150 ball runners that don't gamble and guys that can't run a rack that HAVE to gamble. Some people that have families and bills, usually don't gamble. It is about priorities sometimes, and I do not consider them lesser pool players because they chose a different priority.
Everyone tries to be a lock artist anyways, so if you have tilted the game so far in your favor, I have to ask... are you really gambling?
JV
Everyone tries to be a lock artist anyways, so if you have tilted the game so far in your favor, I have to ask... are you really gambling?
JV
I taken the worst of it many time.
At other times of my life, yes I was looking for locks
Circumstances change, so does action. It’s fluid not binary.
Making games that are locks and "hustling" is not gambling, it is stealing. IMHO. It is like going to a bowling alley and throwing all gutter balls looking to play a blind man anyways.
JV
For sure! Except there is still action everywhere. It's a skill to know how to find it!
we all get stuck once in awhile with the worst of it. the good smart gamblers dont let it happen for long.
and a lock isnt a sure thing. it could be but it really is just getting a good bit the best of the bet. that shows you outsmarted the other guy.
no one is happy getting the short end of the stick but someone ends up with it.
Its only stealing if you mislead the individual or lie to him on the value. (IE the hustle) If he knows the value, and decides to cash them in for less, that is on him. You are talking apples and oranges.
JV
coin dealers always ask what they want and if its cheap enough they get accepted or bargained down some more just like a pool game.
no dealers give a retail appraisal when the customer asks what its worth. they are told what its worth to them. not what they can get at auction or someplace else to a collector. they get wholesale. or less.
to me anyway its all a hustle to get the best deal for yourself.
few coin dealers will show a greysheet to someone who wants info. i know its not exact but few will show it so they can get the coins for far less.
no dealers give a retail appraisal when the customer asks what its worth. they are told what its worth to them. not what they can get at auction or someplace else to a collector. they get wholesale. or less.
to me anyway its all a hustle to get the best deal for yourself.
few coin dealers will show a greysheet to someone who wants info. i know its not exact but few will show it so they can get the coins for far less.
I agree, it’s a stickup. Nothing to be proud of that’s for sure
Idk about all that. I don't totally disagree but I don't think it's that simple either.
Pro poker players can go anywhere and play anyone and no one bats an eye.
I've hustled many times and been hustled just as many. And I've never looked down on the guys that took my money and taught me many lessons.
Gotta have some respect for the game and if you don't want to participate in it that's just fine.
Anyone that has a coin can go to eBay and see what a coin sells for. This is information that can be obtained without much effort. Not like someone that hides their speed to commit what is basically theft by deception. It is funny that you find this theft ok, but when a cuemaker, like in the Searing thread commits deception it is a problem. Both make pool, well look like pool.
A coin dealer is like any other dealer, they buy low and sell high. Again, not an issue unless the dealer is offered lets an 1893-S and he says it in only worth melt. Does it happen, I am sure it does.
Just to be clear the difference is that the person with the coin can find the TRUE value just with minimal research. The victim in the pool hustle cannot, because there will be a dozen other accomplices looking to piggyback off the theft by side betting on the person they know cannot lose.
JV
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1pocketguru
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So are you just speaking for yourself? Or are you implying gambling is "not smart"? I bet almost every legendary player developed a killer instinct by playing for something. Even just a few bucks makes a difference. The game was named after "pooling" the money together going back 250 years. That makes me think of poker players who don't gamble. They just play tournaments. It is really a different set of skills when you play with something to lose. Imagine playing one pocket for nothing versus $2 a game vs. $5 vs 10 and 20 and $100 per game. The game really changes. Or golf on the snooker table. Playing for nothing doesn't make risky shots risky. You end up not taking the game very seriously.
SeniorTom
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I just don't have the nerve to play for anything more than $5 a match. So I don't gamble.
sudocrushms
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The last time I played a stranger for money was some bozo "hustler" in a podunk MN bar that probably didn't even know tables came in different sizes. I was 18-19 (the DD) and my dad's buds talked me into playing $5 games with him. Beat the brakes off him for like $30 and he threw a ball at me. Took it right between the shoulder blades. Couple random locals dragged him out and we left when a fight broke out on the dance floor shortly after. Had a nice bruise from it so couldn't imagine how it would have felt taking that to the noggin.
I'll play dollar or quarter games with friends all day, but no money on the table with strangers. Never again. No sum is too small for an idiot to lose their mind over...