How do these diamond tables play so badly? vid

It's just complaints about fast+tight tables.
The early D' red labels did bank a tad short due to the subrail angle. That was fixed in the Blues. The rails are stiffer than a GC so balls come off a tad quicker(Diamond themselves said this) but again not to the extent some get all wound up over. People don't generally complain about D's being too tight but my goodness do they whine about the 'pinball' action. WTF-ever.
 
The early D' red labels did bank a tad short due to the subrail angle. That was fixed in the Blues. The rails are stiffer than a GC so balls come off a tad quicker(Diamond themselves said this) but again not to the extent some get all wound up over. People don't generally complain about D's being too tight but my goodness do they whine about the 'pinball' action. WTF-ever.
I've seen loads of complaining about the deep shelves. Just makes the tables more speed sensitive.
 
I totally agree

I've played on Diamonds that pick up speed whenever they touch a rail. Hell, they almost go airborne off the rails! Needs to be a bit less imo. . .
If that was true the cue ball would never stop when doing a speed test, that I would like to see. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Shit, even a lag hard enough to hit the head rail would never stop. That would be a sight to see.
 
The early D' red labels did bank a tad short due to the subrail angle. That was fixed in the Blues. The rails are stiffer than a GC so balls come off a tad quicker(Diamond themselves said this) but again not to the extent some get all wound up over. People don't generally complain about D's being too tight but my goodness do they whine about the 'pinball' action. WTF-ever.
It is to an extent to get wound up about. Have you ever in your life heard such passionate complaints about the way a Gold Crown actually "plays"? The complaints on that table are not about its play. Rather about its superficial quality. The castings stick up. The castings tarnish over the years. The Formica wears out over the years in commercial environments. etc. No one complains how they "play". (save for a few years in the early GC3 days when the cushions rotted quickly when the monarch cushions were gone, and a new supplier was used)

The deep shelf is stupid on a 9' Diamond also. It's just the pin ball cushions trump it, so they get talked about more.
 

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If that was true the cue ball would never stop when doing a speed test, that I would like to see. :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
Shit, even a lag hard enough to hit the head rail would never stop. That would be a sight to see.
It would be like the cartoon bullet ricochet: Everyone hit the deck! Only a matter of time before it flies off the table.
If anyone around here is good with the physics simulators, it would be neat to see a pinball pool table. See how quickly that gets out of hand.:ROFLMAO:
 
It would be like the cartoon bullet ricochet: Everyone hit the deck! Only a matter of time before it flies off the table.
If anyone around here is good with the physics simulators, it would be neat to see a pinball pool table. See how quickly that gets out of hand.:ROFLMAO:
just make a set of pool balls out of SuperBalls. those things would zoom around the table.
 
Wrong! Maybe if a hack mechanic did the work with the shims all messed up. In Philadelphia where I grew up the player’s rooms had good mechanics. Triple shimmed GC’s were the standard “table by the counter” table until about 2000 in most areas. And they accepted a hard hit ball better than todays diamonds due to their crazy deep shelf.

And the rest of the “players” tables were double shimmed. And the tables in the back for the bangers had the single factory facing.

Of course longer cushions with only one facing are the best for tight pockets. But an extra shim isn’t the end of the world and championship pool has been played (and played well) on shimmed tables for decades. Many still out there.

Another very important point is the shims are locally installed. The table wasn’t designed with them in mind. The factory table GC has ZERO wrong with its play. On the other hand, a factory Diamond has pin ball machine stupid cushion design, and a mile deep shelf, and stupid facing angles.

So you’re finding a shit hack install of an aftermarket product (shim) and saying that makes a factory GC bad. But everything is wrong on a diamond (except no shims) and it’s good?

I think that might be called a strawman argument? I’m not up with all the manipulative lingo!

Carry on!
In West Philadelphia where I was born and raised, triple shimmed gold crowns were what we played.

Have fun getting that song out of your head
 
It would be like the cartoon bullet ricochet: Everyone hit the deck! Only a matter of time before it flies off the table.
If anyone around here is good with the physics simulators, it would be neat to see a pinball pool table. See how quickly that gets out of hand.:ROFLMAO:
Figures there'd be at least 2 of you nitwits
 
NO table on earth picks up speed off each cushion. To do so would require a re-write of the laws of physics. Also, balls getting airborne is a set-up problem. Played on a lot of Diamonds(blue and red) and have NEVER seen ONE ball airborne. Another case of DDS. Just curious, you've been a member for 4yrs but no posts until basically nine in a month. Stage fright?? ;) You and iusedtoberich probably outta go to DDS therapy
 
NO table on earth picks up speed off each cushion. To do so would require a re-write of the laws of physics. Also, balls getting airborne is a set-up problem. Played on a lot of Diamonds(blue and red) and have NEVER seen ONE ball airborne. Another case of DDS. Just curious, you've been a member for 4yrs but no posts until basically nine in a month. Stage fright?? ;) You and iusedtoberich probably outta go to DDS therapy together. ;)
Did I say every cushion? Did I say it happened frequently? No. I agreed with another poster that Diamomd rails, r on occasion, extremely fast. Now, if those rails r installed a bit low, the ball will go airborne or hop up slightly. And yes, It had happened to me. They had to adjust the rail at the bar.
 
Did I say every cushion? Did I say it happened frequently? No. I agreed with another poster that Diamomd rails, r on occasion, extremely fast. Now, if those rails r installed a bit low, the ball will go airborne or hop up slightly. And yes, It had happened to me. They had to adjust the rail at the bar.
Now you're bactracking. Balls can NOT pick up speed "whenever they touch a rail", your words. As for any jumping/hopping that is nothing but a set-up issue. Not a fault of the table itself. Come on back when you actually have something to say that makes any sense.
 
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