The early D' red labels did bank a tad short due to the subrail angle. That was fixed in the Blues. The rails are stiffer than a GC so balls come off a tad quicker(Diamond themselves said this) but again not to the extent some get all wound up over. People don't generally complain about D's being too tight but my goodness do they whine about the 'pinball' action. WTF-ever.It's just complaints about fast+tight tables.