Has anyone coached a friend through their earbuds?

[ShootingArts]

Mr Bill Smith may be knowledgeable, but he doesn’t have a monopoly on knowledge like he thinks he does. The guy may be fine in real life but his online personality on this forum really sucks.

Knowledge and possession of it is a lot like IQ. Average IQ is 100. The amazing thing is that over 99% of people I have met as adults have over average IQ! They will tell you so themselves.

One of the smartest and most knowledgeable men I ever met only had a second to third grade education. However, if he told you something about livestock or farm animals or farming in general you could get out a hammer and chisel and write it on a rock.

Knowledge is where you find it. The older man that knew about farming and livestock worked at the Louisiana State University Experimental Farm. The farm director had a PhD and only a tiny fraction of his working knowledge. If the time comes I want to learn about 3C I will go to Bill for his working knowledge not someone that can write three pages of formula about how and why what he does works or can't work.

Hu

 

[Mensabum]

I have ADHD, and having music, or even noise cancellation feature turned on helps improve my game (psychologically that is how it feels to me at least, whether it does or not is by the by. Definitely am much more comfortable when it comes to 'serious' games. Every cash game I have played I've worn them with no issue). Some tournaments are fine with me wearing them. Only some bigger events have said 'NO'

I understand the logic behind not allowing them. But to be honest, I don't think someone hiding in the bushes telling me what to do would be helpful, more of a hinderance. There's already enough to think about, unless you intend to follow the instruction given every single time.

Be awfully hard to stay focused, in the zone trying to listen to suggestions. Anything that breaks your concentration can cause you to drop right out of dead stroke. We call it sharking, not instruction.

 

[Mensabum]

Mr Bill Smith may be knowledgeable, but he doesn’t have a monopoly on knowledge like he thinks he does. He may need some more bedside manner.

One of the hardest things I do is admitting idk or I'm wrong about something right off the bat. There's a knee jerk defense mechanism that kicks in telling me I need to defend said position, irregardless of whether right or wrong. Learning how to stop that in myself was tough and is an ongoing battle. Noone wants to be wrong. The smarter you are, the worse it gets.

 

[Mensabum]

Knowledge and possession of it is a lot like IQ. Average IQ is 100. The amazing thing is that over 99% of people I have met as adults have over average IQ! They will tell you so themselves.

One of the smartest and most knowledgeable men I ever met only had a second to third grade education. However, if he told you something about livestock or farm animals or farming in general you could get out a hammer and chisel and write it on a rock.

Knowledge is where you find it. The older man that knew about farming and livestock worked at the Louisiana State University Experimental Farm. The farm director had a PhD and only a tiny fraction of his working knowledge. If the time comes I want to learn about 3C I will go to Bill for his working knowledge not someone that can write three pages of formula about how and why what he does works or can't work.

Hu

Knowledge and possession of it is a lot like IQ. Average IQ is 100. The amazing thing is that over 99% of people I have met as adults have over average IQ! They will tell you so themselves.

One of the smartest and most knowledgeable men I ever met only had a second to third grade education. However, if he told you something about livestock or farm animals or farming in general you could get out a hammer and chisel and write it on a rock.

Knowledge is where you find it. The older man that knew about farming and livestock worked at the Louisiana State University Experimental Farm. The farm director had a PhD and only a tiny fraction of his working knowledge. If the time comes I want to learn about 3C I will go to Bill for his working knowledge not someone that can write three pages of formula about how and why what he does works or can't work.

Hu

That type of hard won hands on knowledge is becoming more and more scarce these days.
I learned how to use power tools as a child and they taught it in high school shop. My grandson couldn't operate a drill when he started w my company. Had to teach him everything about working w equipment.
Poor kid was clueless.
Are there still shop classes??

 

[Island Drive]

I prefer sign language....
Snot cheating .

 

[Rickhem]

I'm not sure how the other governing bodies address this, but in APA, which is probably the base level for league pool, the number of timeouts is limited. Skill level 3 and under will get two timeouts per rack, and everyone else gets one. APA also prohibits use of a smart watch or earbuds at anything but the weekly league matches.
I know that in the leagues I've played, nobody will bitch about helping out a new player when it comes to the aspect of rules and things that your typical bar player isn't familiar with when it comes to league pool.
But this use of earbuds as a "work-around" for the rules is a blatant violation of the conduct during league play aspect of the rulebook. The sportsmanship, or more specifically the lack of it, exhibited by this kind of activity is something that I'd document to league management, and I'd push for both of you to be removed from the league.

If you want to talk someone through every shot, then play practice racks with them, and help pass along the strategy of the game. Help them understand the reasons that one type of shot is preferential to another, and then use their league matches as a kind of a quiz for what you've been helping them understand.

To me, the act of knowingly doing something like this that demonstrates someone's desire to not abide by the rules, and sportsmanship guidelines, speaks volumes towards their character. It tells you exactly who they are.

 

[nataddrho]

Knowledge and possession of it is a lot like IQ. Average IQ is 100. The amazing thing is that over 99% of people I have met as adults have over average IQ! They will tell you so themselves.

One of the smartest and most knowledgeable men I ever met only had a second to third grade education. However, if he told you something about livestock or farm animals or farming in general you could get out a hammer and chisel and write it on a rock.

Knowledge is where you find it. The older man that knew about farming and livestock worked at the Louisiana State University Experimental Farm. The farm director had a PhD and only a tiny fraction of his working knowledge. If the time comes I want to learn about 3C I will go to Bill for his working knowledge not someone that can write three pages of formula about how and why what he does works or can't work.

Hu

Don’t learn from me about 3C, I am only a beginning student! But, That’s not really my point. There are countless of examples of what you mention, which have nothing to do with how people treat each other. Pride vs humility is a biblically-sized theme. Anyway I digress, this isn’t the thread topic, apologies.

 

[ShootingArts]

I'm not sure how the other governing bodies address this, but in APA, which is probably the base level for league pool, the number of timeouts is limited. Skill level 3 and under will get two timeouts per rack, and everyone else gets one. APA also prohibits use of a smart watch or earbuds at anything but the weekly league matches.
I know that in the leagues I've played, nobody will bitch about helping out a new player when it comes to the aspect of rules and things that your typical bar player isn't familiar with when it comes to league pool.
But this use of earbuds as a "work-around" for the rules is a blatant violation of the conduct during league play aspect of the rulebook. The sportsmanship, or more specifically the lack of it, exhibited by this kind of activity is something that I'd document to league management, and I'd push for both of you to be removed from the league.

If you want to talk someone through every shot, then play practice racks with them, and help pass along the strategy of the game. Help them understand the reasons that one type of shot is preferential to another, and then use their league matches as a kind of a quiz for what you've been helping them understand.

To me, the act of knowingly doing something like this that demonstrates someone's desire to not abide by the rules, and sportsmanship guidelines, speaks volumes towards their character. It tells you exactly who they are.

It is one thing to make a mistake, another to cheat deliberately and everyone should have a working knowledge of the rules. Any actual coaching as to how to play except during a legal time out would be met with an unsportsmanlike and DQ's for both players if it was up to me. Again, pistol matches, a man of roughly forty was scoring and taping my nephew's targets. We used one inch target squares so it was possible to tape selectively and conceal misscoring. I caught him cheating a twelve year old boy. I explained to him rather emphatically that if I caught him cheating anyone with my last name again I would kick his ass. The range owner/tournament director told me it was his job to handle such things. I told him I had handled it and would do so again if needed. Then I spent the next three months going out of my way to score the man's targets. He shot a .38 which only makes a 3/8" hole. I carefully taped over the higher scoring lines whenever possible so he had to come behind me and pull the tape off of the targets to check his score. I never cheated, but I left the possibility open nonstop!

Cheating is bad enough between adults, cheating a child in their first season of competition, chickenshit even if the child was kicking their ass! My nephew, my gun, my brother and I training him at the proper time, in practice. LT was a winner in his class from day one. It was hilarious on the way home that first day. He asked if he was given pity points because he was a child competing with all adults. Nope, no pity points!

That type of hard won hands on knowledge is becoming more and more scarce these days.
I learned how to use power tools as a child and they taught it in high school shop. My grandson couldn't operate a drill when he started w my company. Had to teach him everything about working w equipment.
Poor kid was clueless.
Ate there still shop classes??

I don't know if they have shop or home ec classes anymore. I think girls and boys should have to take a semester of both. They do have to take driver's ed to get a license and hunter education to get a hunting license in my state. However, anyone should know how to safely jump a car off or change a tire. The difference between steam and smoke and how to safely open a hood too.

My brother and I were on a day trip. There was a young blond on the side of the road with a flat tire. To put it delicately the girl was homely! I pulled over. "Figure nobody else would stop?" "Yep." She had a jack under an unsupported fender. It wasn't the right one for the car and was too short anyway. I walked back to my truck to look for something to put the jack on or I thought my jack might better serve. My brother came over howling with laughter. "She is a true blond. She suggested putting the spare tire under the jack!" She was pissed we laughed at her but we did get her back on the road safely.

People should have basic skills training and since some parents are no better than the children devoting an hour for one year to teaching basic life skills seems like a good idea even if it just involves teaching people to walk away and get help sometimes.

Hu

 

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[GoldCrown]

Has anyone coached a friend through their earbuds.....​

Pool is a gentleman's game

 

[Moe Szyslak]

Are you trying to get this person into bed or something? Who would waste their time with this? This isn't for money, right? This is league play, right? Who cares?

 

[ShootingArts]

Don’t learn from me about 3C, I am only a beginning student! But, That’s not really my point. There are countless of examples of what you mention, which have nothing to do with how people treat each other. Pride vs humility is a biblically-sized theme. Anyway I digress, this isn’t the thread topic, apologies.

While it flies under many names I have never met anyone that was world class at anything that didn't have a large ego. The public humility of Efren is well known but the first time Marvin Manalo beat him he thought it showed disrespect and he didn't speak to Marvin for six weeks! Efren has a huge ego, he just keeps it under wraps most of the time. I was racing a late model '57 Chevrolet on dirt at seventeen. I was very unathletic and those old cars took muscle to drive. Money and experience too. I was a typical teenager feeling a bit inferior at best. I recognized then that it took a lot of ego to think I could beat the other drivers with the car I had rebuilt from the ground up and built the engine for. Right then I started deliberately building my ego. I didn't notch a feature my first year but I won the last four prelim's I ran. The best knew I was there.

I still annoy some people with my ego. I make no apologies, I consider it an important part of the foundation that has made me a winner at everything I have competed at, often competing against the very best in open competition, no handicap. I dodge any form of competition with a handicap unless I am in the top division. Hard to brag about wins that came any way but head to head with the best.

Modesty, even false modesty, is dangerous. Your subconscious doesn't understand lies, not even "white lies".

Hu

 

[billiards_watch]

While it flies under many names I have never met anyone that was world class at anything that didn't have a large ego. The public humility of Efren is well known but the first time Marvin Manalo beat him he thought it showed disrespect and he didn't speak to Marvin for six weeks! Efren has a huge ego, he just keeps it under wraps most of the time. I was racing a late model '57 Chevrolet on dirt at seventeen. I was very unathletic and those old cars took muscle to drive. Money and experience too. I was a typical teenager feeling a bit inferior at best. I recognized then that it took a lot of ego to think I could beat the other drivers with the car I had rebuilt from the ground up and built the engine for. Right then I started deliberately building my ego. I didn't notch a feature my first year but I won the last four prelim's I ran. The best knew I was there.

I still annoy some people with my ego. I make no apologies, I consider it an important part of the foundation that has made me a winner at everything I have competed at, often competing against the very best in open competition, no handicap. I dodge any form of competition with a handicap unless I am in the top division. Hard to brag about wins that came any way but head to head with the best.

Modesty, even false modesty, is dangerous. Your subconscious doesn't understand lies, not even "white lies".

Hu

I use to be cocky when I was younger and you can smell my arrogance across the room. I played my best then. Now I'm a bit older and very humble now due to age and deaths in family. The pool game has been stale since I came back.

The ego is a very real thing.

 

[SlateMan]

I've seen this play out before....

 

[billiards_watch]

I've seen this play out before....

Exactly this.

Then the friend wins and I am assuming its a great feeling for the coach too. Coach and quarterback relationships are priceless.

 

[gregcantrall]

When it comes to coaching, less is more. I have been on both ends of the equation. When playing Scotch Doubles with a stronger partner, he simply went and stood where he wanted to shoot the next shot from. No words worked well for us that night. When I was the strong player in Scotch Doubles I would only coach if it was requested by my partner. My theory is that unsolicited coaching could distract and confound.

 

[Black-Balled]

Bill has been getting it done in 3C for over forty years

At risk of swelling his head, Bill is a treasure. We n

Hu

If anybody hasn't seen bills 3c vids, well...his spirit animal must be an octopus, he's got so many 3c tricks up his sleeve.

Man knows his 3c.

 

[gregcantrall]

So many Jr amateur coaches out there. shrug. I Loved it when they tried to tell me what I should have done. In my bar table home court play pen. I charged 'em.

I pay for lessons. I also charge for lessons. How about 5 a game?

Hope for them to say 10 shrug. Just good clean fun, officer. It snot gambling it's a contest of skill.

 

[Fatboy]

I use to be cocky when I was younger and you can smell my arrogance across the room. I played my best then. Now I'm a bit older and very humble now due to age and deaths in family. The pool game has been stale since I came back.

The ego is a very real thing.

From your lips to Gods ears this is the best post in this thread. Shit changes in life-like it or not. I’m in the “not” camp, not a damn thing I can do about it……

Best
Fatboy<——-needs his mojo back

 

[gregcantrall]

his spirit animal must be an octopus,

I was accustomed to the what's your sign. My pool sign would be Under Construction.
Scorpio, by the way.