Which Carbon Shaft: BeCue Prime II vs Viking Siege vs JFlowers S.M.O

Which one hits best?


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Did anybody at Expo try these carbon fiber shafts 12.5mm:

  • BeCue Prime II
  • Viking Siege
  • JFlowers S.M.O
If so what is your opinion?

If you own any of these please post feedback, thanks!
 
Can’t help you there, I’m looking the trade my new Defy 3 shaft for the SMO. The Defy is just too different from my Revo to get use to it. I’d like to hear more about the SMO shaft but I’ll probably just blindly get one.
 
Can’t help you there, I’m looking the trade my new Defy 3 shaft for the SMO. The Defy is just too different from my Revo to get use to it. I’d like to hear more about the SMO shaft but I’ll probably just blindly get one.
I have the SMO 12.5 and it’s a great shaft. I like it better than the Cynergy or the Rhino. I also have the Revo 12.9 which I really like.
 
I have the SMO for about 2 weeks. Played with a Revo before that. Also have a cutec Jacoby Blak V.3 and a Rhino. For me I feel the SMO shaft plays the best of all them. Plays close to the Revo in defection but has a nice sound to the hit unlike the ping of a Revo. The reason I changed from the Revo was I have a new cue with a radial pin and did not want to pay the price for a new Revo.
 
Posted in March:
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And here:

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And here but no later post on his results with the Siege:
Sold my Predator P3 with 12,9mm Revo and ZAN Premium Hybrid Max tip. Bought Mezz MSP2-K with two EX Pro shafts, bad choice. Bought Predator Vantage and 314-3 with ZAN PLUS Medium tips and it was a big upgrade to the EX Pro. The Vantage is superior to EX Pro in every way IMO. Wanted a wrapped and thicker butt and ordered a Viking i liked the look of. Ordered the standard Vikore shaft in 12,75mm with Tiger Everest as standard.
Was totally stunned by the way it played. The balance and hit was just superb! Never played the Mezz anymore!
Ordered the InViktus and Siege shaft in 12,75mm and with Tiger Sniper tips right away. The Vantage is a good match with the Viking butt, but prefer the Vikore with Tiger Sniper tip.
Really looking forward getting my Siege and InViktus.

The numbers must mean lowest deflection with the Revo:

After over three straight hours of very firm shots to a rail with a 1.5 tip-width of side spin, and using a training ball for a consistent hit, here are my unscientific conclusions from the deflection testing I promised here the other day. I gave each shaft a number designation so I could better show the degree of differences in the results. I used the same bridge length for each shaft and the cue ball was four feet from the object ball. I was constantly rotating the shafts for more accurate results

By the way, even though I really like the 11.8 Revo, I'm still in the market to replace it, so if anyone feels they have a CF shaft with a lower deflection, I'd like to hear from you. I'm not concerned about feel; just performance. There's a store nearby that allows testing of their cues. Thanks!

[To the original poster of this thread, mrpiper, the Viking Siege feels like a 12.5 Cuetec Cynergy in that it has the same soft hit when compared to the Revo's, but I would say a bit less deflection than the Cynergy]

Predator Revo 11.8mm... 5
Predator Revo 12.4... 4.5
Predator Z3 11.8... 4.25
Viking Siege 12.5... 4
Player's HXT 12.75... 3.5
Player's regular wood shaft (non-low deflection)... 2.5
Same post thread:

I have a Viking Seige as well as their LD Inviktus and Vikore shafts.

I have also learned not to waste my thumbs trying to convince anyone here they are any good. People (understandably) just won't forgive Viking for all that Pearloid / Mother of Toilet Seat they used 30 years ago
 
From word of mouth, The S.M.O looks to be a great deal. For me though, it's the Tiger Fortis Pro. Pretty solid hitting cue with good low deflection. Its now my secondary shaft, next to my kielwood.
 
Anyone who answers this YOU SHOULD NEVER TAKE ADVICE FROM! There is no answer to these questions. You have to hit with them and decide for yourself which fits your game and your liking better but we are all different. I play revo and think the cuetec plays terrible but plenty think the opposite and they aren’t wrong lol
 
Did anybody at Expo try these carbon fiber shafts 12.5mm:

  • BeCue Prime II
  • Viking Siege
  • JFlowers S.M.O
If so what is your opinion?

If you own any of these please post feedback, thanks!
I have been playing Becue for the last4 years, Becue builds shafts differently than any manufacturer I know of, instead of continuously building the new "best" shaft ever, they build different shafts for different types of hit, the first Prime shaft is very Muecci like, some consider it "whippy" I think it is very wood like shaft, the Engage shaft is a pure CF hit, very little if any feedback, if you like the majority of the well known shafts you will like the hit of this shaft, the Prime II is my favorite shaft, to me it has the best balance of feedback and CF hit, they all have LD and play great, the best shaft is the one that feels the best to you, Becue said it best, not everyone would like how one cue hits, they have taken the challenge to build cues that have several great hitting styles of cues and shafts
 
me personally I stick to cuetech and predator carbon fiber shafts not because there are any better but because I know they will stand behind their product if something breaks due to normal usage. I broke three rhino carbon fiber shafts and support was non-existent. I’m interested in an SMO but I don’t know whether their policy is on repairs. I have bad luck with equipment sometimes. Also went through 5 carbon Whyte shafts. Which were replaced every single time but after the last replacement, I sold them both brand new. I was tired of dealing with their warranty.
 
me personally I stick to cuetech and predator carbon fiber shafts not because there are any better but because I know they will stand behind their product if something breaks due to normal usage. I broke three rhino carbon fiber shafts and support was non-existent. I’m interested in an SMO but I don’t know whether their policy is on repairs. I have bad luck with equipment sometimes. Also went through 5 carbon Whyte shafts. Which were replaced every single time but after the last replacement, I sold them both brand new. I was tired of dealing with their warranty.

yea... i think the more interesting question is how you managed to break 8 cf shafts
 
yea... i think the more interesting question is how you managed to break 8 cf shafts
The rhino is trash went thru 3. The carbon white break Cue never broke, but the feral came loose three times so I was on my fourth one. The ferrule doesn’t break, but it does become loose. It’s a flaw of their design. And then the playing shaft developed a terrible noise coming from the inside. I bought it from Seyberts and they said when I could send it in, but they probably would not warrant it. And then the guy hit one ball with it and heard the sound and sent me a brand new one. It was like something inside had broken. Upon doing more research, I found out I’m not the only customer who had a problem with Whyte carbon shafts. Everything else I have is predator , Cuetech or Viking never had anything break on me ever.
 
me personally I stick to cuetech and predator carbon fiber shafts not because there are any better but because I know they will stand behind their product if something breaks due to normal usage. I broke three rhino carbon fiber shafts and support was non-existent. I’m interested in an SMO but I don’t know whether their policy is on repairs. I have bad luck with equipment sometimes. Also went through 5 carbon Whyte shafts. Which were replaced every single time but after the last replacement, I sold them both brand new. I was tired of dealing with their warranty.
Becue's are made in Italy, great products and company, the will be at SBE next spring, if you are going stop by and talk to them
 
I will. I just like to be able to get a hold of the company that I’m buying from. Sounds good.
Talk to Alessandro, he has always responded to calls or emails, Hawaiian Eye turned me on to these cues, they even have CF butts, best hitting cue I have ever owned, these guys are pool players who wanted to bring the same benefits from CF tennis racquets, golf clubs, ect. to pool players, they spent 3 yrs in R& D building their first cue.
 
Talk to Alessandro, he has always responded to calls or emails, Hawaiian Eye turned me on to these cues, they even have CF butts, best hitting cue I have ever owned, these guys are pool players who wanted to bring the same benefits from CF tennis racquets, golf clubs, ect. to pool players, they spent 3 yrs in R& D building their first cue.
Their customer service is top notch.

Alessandro will go out of his way to make you happy.

For the best playing experience, I would suggest getting their entire cue instead of just getting a shaft for a wood butt.

I would get the Naked cue...simple, plain, and just as good as their "prettier" models.

I would also get a shaft with the little white ferrule...it makes it easier to judge the tip distance from the cue ball.
 
Their customer service is top notch.

Alessandro will go out of his way to make you happy.

For the best playing experience, I would suggest getting their entire cue instead of just getting a shaft for a wood butt.

I would get the Naked cue...simple, plain, and just as good as their "prettier" models.

I would also get a shaft with the little white ferrule...it makes it easier to judge the tip distance from the cue ball.
I own the Natural Born Naked cue, Alessandro even built a custom 3" extension for it at a very reasonable price, I'm using the standard 29" butt with the 3" extension and a 30" Prime II 12.0 shaft and couldn't be happier with it, I use the clear Ferrule and added an acrylic pad and am using the Bulletproof Recoil Green (hard) tip if there is any difference in deflection from adding the pad I don't notice it, one last side note, I have always played with a glove, even with wood shafts, one night while practicing I went to the bathroom, took off my glove, and when I came back to the table only had 3 balls left so I shot them without the glove, it's been 4 months and I haven't used the glove since, some people complain CF is sticky and you have to use a glove, even in the summer humidity it wasn't a problem with this shaft, I swore I would never use a CF shaft, I can't thank Hawaiian Eye enough for turning me on to Becue, I didn't lie though, I'm not using a CF shaft, I'm using a CF cue........
 
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