This Layout Took Me Three Tries

DrCue'sProtege said:

This took me three tries to get this spread out. I missed the 3B twice because of over-cutting it.

Anyway, here's how it went........

Left english to go from the 1B to the 3B.
Stop the CB on the 3B or pull it back a hair.
Roll the 4B into the side and follow up just slightly for the 5B in the bottom left corner.
Make the 5B into the corner and then the 6B in the same corner. I followed up just a little to the end rail to get a slight angle on the 8B. I didn't quite have the right angle to stop the 6B for a better angle on the 8B.
Make the 8B in the top left corner and follow with right english to make the 9B in the top right corner.

Three tries. Unacceptable. I'm pitiful anymore.

r/DCP
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What were your mistakes in the first 2 attempts?

Chances are you were always pitiful, you are just starting to realize it like the rest of us.
 
rexus31 said:
The margin of error is much larger playing the 1B two rails with spin to get on the 3B. Especially with BIH, there is no reason to make it that complicated.
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The margin for error is smaller with the 1 rail as your are playing into the path of the 3 ball and maintain the correct side of the 3 to make the 4 in the side pocket.

Playing 1 rail and coming up short you still have everything I just mentioned above.

Playing 2 rails and coming up short you are now on the inside line of the 3 and backcutting into the corner pocket forcing the cueball to cross the center of the table for more complex position.

Edit. I misread your post. I agree. The 1 railer is the way to go.
 
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jasonlaus said:
This is why we have so many on here that can't play. 1 rail off the 1 is the correct answer, a few have already told you why. Do what you want
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Agreed. I set this up and ran it on the first try. On the table, the 1 rail shot to the 3 is really the only option. Shooting the 2-railer is just asking for trouble because the shot line is way thinner than the diagram shows. The rest of the shots are pretty straight forward (and I disagree with crossing the shot line to the 9. The one rail shape to the 9 is also the best play IMO).

-td

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I converted the chalky pic and used my projector to set it up, so it’s pretty accurate (no user set up error). I was also stone cold shooting as I was still drinking my first cup of coffee.

I guess the point is the pattern pretty straightforward if you keep good angles)

 
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td873 said:
Agreed. I set this up and ran it on the first try. On the table, the 1 rail shot to the 3 is really the only option. Shooting the 2-railer is just asking for trouble because the shot line is way thinner than the diagram shows. The rest of the shots are pretty straight forward (and I disagree with crossing the shot line to the 9. The one rail shape to the 9 is also the best play IMO).

-td

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I converted the chalky pic and used my projector to set it up, so it’s pretty accurate (no user set up error). I was also stone cold shooting as I was still drinking my first cup of coffee.

I guess the point is the pattern pretty straightforward if you keep good angles)

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The inset cue ball showed a little follow on the 1B, but the result looks like you got a bit of left spin. I only comment on this, because per the diagram I thought it looked like center-top would have hit the 9. With the same speed it probably would have still sent the CB on a good line to the 3, although obviously would change the last shot a little, due to displacing the 9.
 
heater451 said:
The inset cue ball showed a little follow on the 1B, but the result looks like you got a bit of left spin. I only comment on this, because per the diagram I thought it looked like center-top would have hit the 9. With the same speed it probably would have still sent the CB on a good line to the 3, although obviously would change the last shot a little, due to displacing the 9.
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It shows top left. And the line to the 3 was spot on because if it!



—td
 

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Not a world beater by any measure, but for me this layout comes down to just 1 thing and that is getting on the 4 correctly. Be it in the side or in the corner.

The rest is just connect the dots. Obviously when I was starting out connecting the dots was tough. It just takes time and practice.
 
jasonlaus said:
This is why we have so many on here that can't play. 1 rail off the 1 is the correct answer, a few have already told you why. Do what you want
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Buddy Hall sez “Don’t play shape when you already got it”….one rail it is….you got the angle you want as soon as you leave the rail.
…….don't care how anybody plays it on a Valley
 
td873 said:
Agreed. I set this up and ran it on the first try. On the table, the 1 rail shot to the 3 is really the only option. Shooting the 2-railer is just asking for trouble because the shot line is way thinner than the diagram shows. The rest of the shots are pretty straight forward (and I disagree with crossing the shot line to the 9. The one rail shape to the 9 is also the best play IMO).

-td

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I converted the chalky pic and used my projector to set it up, so it’s pretty accurate (no user set up error). I was also stone cold shooting as I was still drinking my first cup of coffee.

I guess the point is the pattern pretty straightforward if you keep good angles)

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nice shooting
 
bbb said:
i dont need more proof you cant play and feel sorry for yourself.
why keep beating yourself up?
life is too short
find another hobby
jmho
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Well, maybe he just needs to take a completely different approach. One way would be to work on trick shots. Get the books by Mike Massey, Bob Byrne, Jimmy Caras, Pete Margo, and Joe Hood. Work for a day or two on each shot. I think he is sure to see improvement on each shot as he works on it. And some shots you can't really expect to make very often, so failure but with improvement is the deal.
 
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td873 said:
It shows top left. And the line to the 3 was spot on because if it!



—td
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My mistake--I sit at an angle to the monitor on which I view the forum, and the dot was (is) close enough to center that the combination made me view it as in the center.

Thanks, for the correction.
 
Looks to be an easy out. Now I’m not the best player by any stretch of the imagination. If I play the ghost on my 9ft Diamond I’ll usually put together at least a 3 pack 4s and 5s on a halfway regular basis if I’ve been playing regularly. However if I had a dollar for every easy out I’ve messed up I’d be a millionaire. It happens to us mortals a lot more than we care to remember.
 
I have no jock issues about saying it _is_ an easy out. As far as rotation skills sets go, there's nothing there that would have to exceed level one. Kinda put off about this disciplinarian attitude that there is a right and wrong going to the three and then the hypocrisy of the rest falls into place. Is this a level 1 only drill? There is infinite error available anywhere in that or any layout.
Is it a competitive situation? Looks like money to me.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:

This took me three tries to get this spread out. I missed the 3B twice because of over-cutting it.

Anyway, here's how it went........

Left english to go from the 1B to the 3B.
Stop the CB on the 3B or pull it back a hair.
Roll the 4B into the side and follow up just slightly for the 5B in the bottom left corner.
Make the 5B into the corner and then the 6B in the same corner. I followed up just a little to the end rail to get a slight angle on the 8B. I didn't quite have the right angle to stop the 6B for a better angle on the 8B.
Make the 8B in the top left corner and follow with right english to make the 9B in the top right corner.

Three tries. Unacceptable. I'm pitiful anymore.

r/DCP
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The 1 or 2 cushion for the 3 in the upper left corner is obvious, whichever you feel more comfortable with. I would choose the end cushion with just enough outside to safely avoid running into the 9. The problem with planning on the 4 in the side is that it might not be that easy unless you end up virtually straight in on the 3. If you don’t draw back to just the right angle for the 4 in the side, sliding over for the 5 in the side might not be that easy, which is why I might prefer the 4 in the lower right corner, which would leave numerous pocket / positioning options for the 5, depending on the angle you’ve left on the 4. After the 5, everything else is obvious - just don’t leave yourself too straight on the 8.
 
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