Sorry- thought his name was Smith- I feel bad for him. He had the match in hand
Ultimate Pool Kansas City Open
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This was very interesting and fun to watch.
My gripe with it is that the ref was spotting the 8 ball because of the rules, then didn’t say whose shot it was. Announcers said he wasn’t allowed to interfere with the player shooting so couldn’t say it was Sky’s shot. Yeah players need to know the rules. But to me this really brings up questions of the role of the ref. In any other sport where the ref spots or handles the ball it is clear who has possession of the ball and the status of the game. Football after a turnover call, whether on downs, fumble, or interception, the officiating crew makes clear whose ball it is. In basketball the ref will toss the ball to the player inbounding it from the team with possession. Etc…. So when you have a ref in a game with gaff rules to begin with, I don’t get how the ref doesn’t say or can’t say whose shot it is. Even if these rules are good and people like them, they are unusual and there are differences within the same tournament right? That is between the shootout and the main event. The role of the ref in this situation seems bizarre to me.
I asked the ref about this scenario because it happened in the Boston Open as well. In the scenario here in KC, Nick could have stood there after the ref spotted the 8, and after 30 seconds Sky would be called for a time foul and Nick would have gotten ball in hand. It's definitely NOT what we're used to over here, but the rules are not a secret, and the players should spend five minutes learning them.
What if a player asks the ref whose turn it is? What is the rule on that? If you know it isn’t your shot how is it not unsportsmanlike conduct to stand there instead of going to the chair? I haven’t had a reason to read their rules, but yeah, if you play in them you better read their rules and understand them.
So Ashley Benoit defeated Emily Duddy 6-1 (race to 7, but match clock expired in Game 8) to win the women's final and reverse their order of finish 4 weeks ago in the Boston event. It was a match full of misses and fouls.
In the men's final, Ricky Evans was super, defeating Joe Prince 8-4. He had 5 B&Rs on 6 breaks, and his only errors were a foul on one break and failure to get position for the last two balls in the last game (which he still won). Prince also played well, with 3 B&Rs and just 3 missed shots, one of which was a skid in the last game.
Congrats, champs!
In the men's final, Ricky Evans was super, defeating Joe Prince 8-4. He had 5 B&Rs on 6 breaks, and his only errors were a foul on one break and failure to get position for the last two balls in the last game (which he still won). Prince also played well, with 3 B&Rs and just 3 missed shots, one of which was a skid in the last game.
Congrats, champs!
what is the evaluation of the format in a league setting? i think that's the appropriate measure, because these events are advertising a league, not a pro tour.
i would think the clock is a big sell if you're a working man playing a tournament and don't know when you're getting home.
you can clearly see it works in that regard because johnny isn't picking lint and bergman isn't taking two minutes per shot
In league and also on non tv tables, there is no shot clock. But there is a time limit on a match which I think is absurd.
I think the 6 ball format should adjust.
Have both players start with thee exact same table layout.
Run baby Run....
Then set the table in such a manner to see em RUN the Rack.
Have both players start with thee exact same table layout.
Run baby Run....
Then set the table in such a manner to see em RUN the Rack.
I think it is clear that pool needs something like a chess clock- makes playing and watching so much more enjoyable to have time restrictions
then they should have. both shot clock and match clock.
What happens if the match leader starts stalling? Anything?
Is that as an app or do you have a special timer thingie? Does it take a third person at the table?
The league certainly DOES use a shot clock and match clock.
Right there is a 30 second shot clock in league play. (Does not go down to 15.)
There's a third person running the clock, our league provides tablets w/an app. There's 5 players per team, so it's been no trouble finding somebody to do it for each game.
Oh also - I've played about 10 matches and seen an all-ball foul just once. Once people know the rules it's really no problem at all.
He's incorrect.