I have a guy wanting to change his old ferrule for a stainless one, and the shaft collar. Does anybody have a line on these?
Tyia,
Nathan Brugmann
Tyia,
Nathan Brugmann
Stainless Ferrule
- Thread starter blackhawk357m
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I have never heard of a Stainless Steel ferrule, that would certainly effect the end mass of the shaft causing serious deflection.
It's what the guy wants
who am I to judge lol. He wants it all matching with the steel butt collar. I may be able to get him to a nickel alloy...possibly.
RidgeRaider
Member
I'm the kind of cue mechanic who just shuts up and gives the customer what they want, with the preface of "You're asking for abnormal parts and work, I won't warranty the feel of the cue. I'll warranty the parts and quality of work, but however this things turns out feedback and playability wise is on you".It's what the guy wants
I just did some work for a buddy who wanted some abnormal collar and butt-cap material. Longevity, the jury is out still, but feel wise it turned out fantastic.
If this guy wants a SS ferrule, make him a damn SS ferrule and report back with that monstrosity lol. I can turn out a SS ferrule in like 5 mins on the lathe.
Good luck finding it, you may need to make it yourself. Should be easy to buy a stainless steel rod and bore it out and thread it yourself. Did you explain to him how much deflection that a stainless steel ferrule will cause? When I was building custom cues and doing a lot of repair work I had all kinds of strange requests like this, 99% of the time a little education would change the customers mind.It's what the guy wants
Take care man!!
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Zerksies
Well-known member
Cuetec did something like this in the early 2000's
Yea, I kinda remember that and it went the way of the Dinosaurs which says it all!
Thanks for post.
DeeDeeCues
Well-known member
I'll tell you one thing... Super glue isn't holding a tip on stainless for very long.
boogieman
It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I think you would probably do better with a thin stainless sleeve on the tenon. Snooker uses brass, but it's not a solid chunk of brass. If you built a thick ferrule with stainless it will play like a huge POS. I know the customer pays for the service but I wouldn't want my name on a thick stainless ferrule.
I totally agree, and reputation is everything in the business!
Honestly, just say no. We all have customers who wants to reinvent the wheel and in 99.9% of the cases it's gonna be something stupid..
I've done Ti ferrules on snooker cues, that's a very different ballgame. 9.5mm shaft, 7mm tennon and the ferrule is super short, it weights something like 1.4 gram. There's no upside to use this construction technique on a pool cue. The same goes for the SS shaft collar.
I've done Ti ferrules on snooker cues, that's a very different ballgame. 9.5mm shaft, 7mm tennon and the ferrule is super short, it weights something like 1.4 gram. There's no upside to use this construction technique on a pool cue. The same goes for the SS shaft collar.
I'm guessing it's for breaking.
You can do whatever you want,
If, you can make the parts.
On the ferrule, I would make an impact pad for under the tip but screws into the ferrule and epoxied on.
I'm talking real epoxy.
Please don't make me open that can of worms BS
Good luck!
Yeah, I don't have a metal lathe to make the parts. I'm listening to ALL this great advice and really appreciate it. I know it would change everything about the playability of the cue, he apparently just wants it to match.
I think I'm just going to pass on the job. I have too many other things going on to have this project
.
Thanks for all the advice guys!
Nathan Brugmann
I think I'm just going to pass on the job. I have too many other things going on to have this project
. Thanks for all the advice guys!
Nathan Brugmann
Ever heard of this phrase?It's what the guy wants
Friends don't let friends ________________. (fill in the blank)
In this case the blank should read "do stupid stuff"
Interestingly, snooker players, including the pros and world champions, use brass ferrules on basically conical tapered cues.
Our pool champions of yesteryear including greats like Mosconi, used stiff tapers with large diameter tips and ivory ferrules.
YMMV
If that's what the guy wants, it's what he wants.
I definitely contradicts modern methods and materials.
I'm real curious how those snapshot ferrules and shafts are selling. I remember when he started out, I didn't think it would last long.
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They are sleeved, not solid and sleeving them reduces the end mass and the weight.
The biggest problem is the end mass which will create massive deflection unless it is sleeved instead of solid.
Peace Bro