Stainless Ferrule

blackhawk357m said:
I have a guy wanting to change his old ferrule for a stainless one, and the shaft collar. Does anybody have a line on these?

Tyia,
Nathan Brugmann
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I have never heard of a Stainless Steel ferrule, that would certainly effect the end mass of the shaft causing serious deflection.
 
blackhawk357m said:
It's what the guy wants 🤷‍♂️ who am I to judge lol. He wants it all matching with the steel butt collar. I may be able to get him to a nickel alloy...possibly.
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I'm the kind of cue mechanic who just shuts up and gives the customer what they want, with the preface of "You're asking for abnormal parts and work, I won't warranty the feel of the cue. I'll warranty the parts and quality of work, but however this things turns out feedback and playability wise is on you".

I just did some work for a buddy who wanted some abnormal collar and butt-cap material. Longevity, the jury is out still, but feel wise it turned out fantastic.

If this guy wants a SS ferrule, make him a damn SS ferrule and report back with that monstrosity lol. I can turn out a SS ferrule in like 5 mins on the lathe.
 
blackhawk357m said:
It's what the guy wants 🤷‍♂️ who am I to judge lol. He wants it all matching with the steel butt collar. I may be able to get him to a nickel alloy...possibly.
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Good luck finding it, you may need to make it yourself. Should be easy to buy a stainless steel rod and bore it out and thread it yourself. Did you explain to him how much deflection that a stainless steel ferrule will cause? When I was building custom cues and doing a lot of repair work I had all kinds of strange requests like this, 99% of the time a little education would change the customers mind.

Take care man!!
 
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I think you would probably do better with a thin stainless sleeve on the tenon. Snooker uses brass, but it's not a solid chunk of brass. If you built a thick ferrule with stainless it will play like a huge POS. I know the customer pays for the service but I wouldn't want my name on a thick stainless ferrule.
 
boogieman said:
I think you would probably do better with a thin stainless sleeve on the tenon. Snooker uses brass, but it's not a solid chunk of brass. If you built a thick ferrule with stainless it will play like a huge POS. I know the customer pays for the service but I wouldn't want my name on a thick stainless ferrule.
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I totally agree, and reputation is everything in the business!
 
Honestly, just say no. We all have customers who wants to reinvent the wheel and in 99.9% of the cases it's gonna be something stupid..
I've done Ti ferrules on snooker cues, that's a very different ballgame. 9.5mm shaft, 7mm tennon and the ferrule is super short, it weights something like 1.4 gram. There's no upside to use this construction technique on a pool cue. The same goes for the SS shaft collar.
 
blackhawk357m said:
I have a guy wanting to change his old ferrule for a stainless one, and the shaft collar. Does anybody have a line on these?

Tyia,
Nathan Brugmann
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I'm guessing it's for breaking.
You can do whatever you want,
If, you can make the parts.
On the ferrule, I would make an impact pad for under the tip but screws into the ferrule and epoxied on.
I'm talking real epoxy.
Please don't make me open that can of worms BS
Good luck!
 
Yeah, I don't have a metal lathe to make the parts. I'm listening to ALL this great advice and really appreciate it. I know it would change everything about the playability of the cue, he apparently just wants it to match.

I think I'm just going to pass on the job. I have too many other things going on to have this project 😆.

Thanks for all the advice guys!

Nathan Brugmann
 
Closest I know of is Snapshot. They are tungsten.

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That cue will play like shit. I'd have the guy sign a waiver so he couldn't bitch after he missed every spin shot he tried.
 
garczar said:
That cue will play like shit. I'd have the guy sign a waiver so he couldn't bitch after he missed every spin shot he tried.
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Interestingly, snooker players, including the pros and world champions, use brass ferrules on basically conical tapered cues.

Our pool champions of yesteryear including guests like Mosconi, used stiff tapers with large diameter tips and ivory ferrules.

YMMV

If that's what the guy wants, it's what he wants.

I definitely contradicts modern methods and materials.

I'm real curious how those snapshot ferrules and shafts are selling. I remember when he started out, I didn't think it would last long.
 
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