Take all of the weight out of your break cue

I think the days of people trying to break 25+ mph are over. It's more of a controlled break now.

The ideal break is break the pack open land the CB in the center of the table and have a shot of the first ball.
 
3kushn said:
My 3C playing cue is around 15.5oz. Maybe 16.

I get around the table just fine.
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As a kid I always looked for a light cue on the rack.

I had a guy make me a stick with at 3/8 x 10 pin that weighs about 12oz. plus shaft I'm at 15.2
and it plays amazingly. The new cloth is so pressure sensitive there is no reason to play with a heavy cue
in my opinion.
 
Cicerone88 said:
I vaguely remember Dr. Dave saying that there’s diminishing returns whether you go lighter or heavier. Staying within 18-21oz is ideal. A lot of it comes down to your genetics and if you have fast twitch or slow twitch muscle fibres.
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If this is true, and it probably is, then it makes sense that you would move to a heavier breaker as you age. The only thing fast twitch on this guy anymore are my eyelids!
 
Flakeandrun said:
I was using it at its stock weight. Now using it, at it's minimal weight. Will continue to see how it goes. But you're right, trial and error. See what works for you. As an idea, I do think using a heavier cue and developing the stroke/precision that you want could have some "weight to it" ;)

But really felt good and had good results yesterday, and am keen to continue seeing how it goes.
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I'll let you in on a secret. If you get one of those Elite brand breakers, the ones with the wood pin, they can make an excellent break cue. They are $240 now but used to be about $150. Anyway... take out the ridiculous weight bolt. The thing is probably 3/8" diameter and 8" long. Then face off the phenolic tip/ferrule combo until it's flat on the end. Put on something like a hammerhead 2 or a white diamond. You will have an absolute beast of a break cue.

They are super light without the weight bolt, probably 16 oz and they will obliterate a rack.
 
Zerksies said:
I think the days of people trying to break 25+ mph are over. It's more of a controlled break now.

The ideal break is break the pack open land the CB in the center of the table and have a shot of the first ball.
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Yes, Matchroom and WPA seem to lean into that, even with a 3-point rule, you're not needing 100% effort.
 
You generate the highest amount of force if both mass and acceleration are balanced. a toothpick can be swung as quick as your arm can move, and a barbell is quite heavy, but neither are going to impart much force into a rack if used as a cue. Additionally, the energy transfer from the cue ball to rack should be as close to 100% as possible, requiring a precise hit. Your gains in force are greatly diminished if you're not hitting the rack full. You should have a cue weight that allows you to swing as hard and as accurately as possible to get the most efficient hit that you're capable of.
 
Crasher said:
You generate the highest amount of force if both mass and acceleration are balanced. a toothpick can be swung as quick as your arm can move, and a barbell is quite heavy, but neither are going to impart much force into a rack if used as a cue. Additionally, the energy transfer from the cue ball to rack should be as close to 100% as possible, requiring a precise hit. Your gains in force are greatly diminished if you're not hitting the rack full. You should have a cue weight that allows you to swing as hard and as accurately as possible to get the most efficient hit that you're capable of.
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Sound advice, I would tend to trust a member named 'Crasher' on matters relating to breaking 😂

Played some more WPA 9ball last night, still very happy. Took around 5 breaks to make some adjustment to MR breaking, but feel pretty solid there. 8/10 ball break both working well. Took a few attempts to dial down the 10ball break to get it workable.

As I mentioned before, I won't say the weight inside was a bad thing, if anything, it's allowed me the accuracy I have now using it as a lighter cue.
 
SSP said:
My friend Ron was clocked at 26mph at SBE, I believe the formula is mass × speed = force, you can improve your break force by adding weight if you don't have good break speed.
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I’m not a Rocket man, but it’s mass x speed squared = force.
 
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