Is it a legal bank shot when...
- Thread starter VTEC John
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No! The rail adjacent the pocket is not a bank.
Well unless you are playing the young man I encountered in Canada. His daddy told him otherwise.
Well unless you are playing the young man I encountered in Canada. His daddy told him otherwise.
L.S. Dennis
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Interesting question, literally I would say yes, intuitively I would say no. Maybe to qualify as a 'bank' the object ball would have to be pocketed in a pocket other than the one it's facing? Will be interesting to see what others think!
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Surely there's a rule somewhere...
Bank puhl eez a dum gaym.
VTEC John
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Adjacent rail is not a bank. That makes sense. Is it a rule?No! The rail adjacent the pocket is not a bank.
Well unless you are playing the young man I encountered in Canada. His daddy told him otherwise.
Nopit ain’t.
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You must not bank well
Yeah I know.
Banks to me are connective shots. I wouldn't ever go too deep into banks as the prime directive.
And yeah, the rules are anti pool. Stupid. It's like world class bar rules. Remove the limitations and then maybe you can get something happening.
VTEC John
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Thanks!
That's like the old tavern rule; it has to go in clean. Yes and after the shot when you call foul, I'll stuff your head in the side pocket without hitting a rail.
I'm sure you're aware you can't do anything about a blocking ball besides try and move it with the CB or waste a shot shooting it elsewhere. No combination banks, banked combinations, no kissed in anything - not sure about billiarded banks but I imagine those are taboo too. Half the time a ball near a pocket is functionally out of play.
Stiffer than those mano a mano knife fights you see in the movies.
Stiffer than those mano a mano knife fights you see in the movies.
@Frosty
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Banks to me are connective shots. I wouldn't ever go too deep into banks as the prime directive.
And yeah, the rules are anti pool. Stupid. It's like world class bar rules.
I'm sure you're aware you can't do anything about a blocking ball besides try and move it with the CB or waste a shot shooting it elsewhere. No combination banks, banked combinations, no kissed in anything - not sure about billiarded banks but I imagine those are taboo too. Half the time a ball near a pocket is functionally out of play.
Stiffer than those mano a mano knife fights you see in the movies.
Remove the limitations and then maybe you can get something happening.
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Banks to me are connective shots. I wouldn't ever go too deep into banks as the prime directive.
And yeah, the rules are anti pool. Stupid. It's like world class bar rules.
I'm sure you're aware you can't do anything about a blocking ball besides try and move it with the CB or waste a shot shooting it elsewhere. No combination banks, banked combinations, no kissed in anything - not sure about billiarded banks but I imagine those are taboo too. Half the time a ball near a pocket is functionally out of play.
Stiffer than those mano a mano knife fights you see in the movies.
Remove the limitations and then maybe you can get something happening.
This brings up the question, how far away from a cushion does a ball have to be before contact is non-incidental ??
Do we have a situation where a ball x-mm from the rail is incidental and a ball (x+0.1)-mm from the rail is non-incidental ???
Does this not lead to judgement calls and other chicanery ?!?
There you go w the pig latin again.,
Thank you.
I think the only thing that matters is whether the rail it hits is adjacent to the pocket it goes into. If it hits an adjacent rail it's still good (but a bank shot must hit a non-adjacent rail before hitting the adjacent one).
pj
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An extreme case is where you play a long bank near a side rail and the object ball nicks the point of the side rail before the side pocket, and then by a small miracle goes into the corner. The rule quoted above does not allow that as an incidental rail on a technicality -- that's a different "rail section".
Which leads to the question, if you play a ball off the point of the side pocket to go into the farther corner on that side, is that a bank shot?
There are some other improbable bank shots for which the rule is unclear.