Diamond Professional Delivery Time

7stud said:
Yep, if you hit a ball with speed into a pocket, it will leave a black mark.
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I think it's from that black rubber "skirt" inside the back of the pocket. I'm used to Pro-Ams since that's what the pool halls have, but is it the same on the Professionals (with the drop pockets)?

The older Pro-Ams definitely mark the balls up more than the newer ones though.
 
sudocrushms said:
I think it's from that black rubber "skirt" inside the back of the pocket. I'm used to Pro-Ams since that's what the pool halls have, but is it the same on the Professionals (with the drop pockets)?

The older Pro-Ams definitely mark the balls up more than the newer ones though.
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It's the leather. I used mink oil on mine, applying about every 2 weeks for 2 months or so and it stopped leaving black marks.
 
Time to tear down a wall and move into the apartment! 2 tables def won't fit as-is. 21' x 19' interior walls shown, 58" cue, no backswing.


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Ok, so, I am somewhat confused now.

What exactly kind of wood does Diamond make their tables with nowadays?

Is it a somewhat synthetic type wood? Is it hard rubber? Is it an actual wood?

And I assume there are various colors/stains that are available? Such as cherry, oak, black, etc, etc.
 
The skirts of the tables and the legs are made of furniture grade plywood with an oak hardwood veneer on the face. The top of the rail (only) is a synthetic material with a phenolic (or similar) impregnated mixture. This formula has changed over the years depending on which company was supplying the rail top. It is super hard, won't ding at all. Harder than the Formica on the GC's. The oak veneer plywood can be painted black (possibly other solid colors), or stained in several choices. The oak is very porous and shows the cathedral grain, even when painted black.

I "think" you can also get maple veneer plywood, which is a closed pore wood, and the finish will be much smoother, even if solid paint color. 99% of the tables you see in the wild will be oak veneer. Its the standard.

That is for the Pro-Am and Professional.

You can also get the rail tops in solid wood, with choices of cherry, oak, maple, etc, and either have them stained or painted. This might look prettier, but it will ding when balls hit it.

Edit to add: in the 90's and 00's, the "common" style was the oak-veneer plywood legs/skirts stained in a reddish/brownish tone, and the dymondwood top rails to match. As shown in post $58.

Today, and for the about the past 5 years, the "common" style is oak-veneer plywood painted (not stained) flat black, with black synthetic rail tops. Any current tournament you see will be like this.

Black rail tops were not available in the Dymondwood days. It was a limitation of the process.
 
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iusedtoberich said:
The skirts of the tables and the legs are made of furniture grade plywood with an oak hardwood veneer on the face. The top of the rail (only) is a synthetic material with a phenolic (or similar) impregnated mixture. This formula has changed over the years depending on which company was supplying the rail top. It is super hard, won't ding at all. Harder than the Formica on the GC's. The oak veneer plywood can be painted black (possibly other solid colors), or stained in several choices. The oak is very porous and shows the cathedral grain, even when painted black.

I "think" you can also get maple veneer plywood, which is a closed pore wood, and the finish will be much smoother, even if solid paint color. 99% of the tables you see in the wild will be oak veneer. Its the standard.

That is for the Pro-Am and Professional.

You can also get the rail tops in solid wood, with choices of cherry, oak, maple, etc, and either have them stained or painted. This might look prettier, but it will ding when balls hit it.

Edit to add: in the 90's and 00's, the "common" style was the oak-veneer plywood legs/skirts stained in a reddish/brownish tone, and the dymondwood top rails to match. As shown in post $58.

Today, and for the about the past 5 years, the "common" style is oak-veneer plywood painted (not stained) flat black, with black synthetic rail tops. Any current tournament you see will be like this.

Black rail tops were not available in the Dymondwood days. It was a limitation of the process.
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Well if anyone is banging balls on my rails, they're leaving without theirs...
 
boogieman said:
It's the leather. I used mink oil on mine, applying about every 2 weeks for 2 months or so and it stopped leaving black marks.
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Yup.. this. I clean my pockets every 6 months with black shoe leather and then cover them in mink oil. Rarely do I get a mark on a ball anymore
 
I somehow have gotten the impression that if I go with Black in this Diamond Professional the delivery time will be a lot shorter.

Am I correct or am I out in left field?

r/DCP
 
It doesn't really make sense to go from a GC to a Diamond Professional, which is at best, a Gold Crown lookalike. In spite of the model name being "Professional", this table is rarely used outside of homes. It does not ship already put together like a Pro-Am would be, it is not as durable as a Pro-Am or a Gold Crown. I would guess that since it is a rare table it would take longer to ship. But even Diamond probably can't tell you how long their own tables will take to ship.

It is a fine table, don't get me wrong, I had one for years. But if you are expecting something like what the "pros" play on, you might be disappointed. It is not a tank like the Pro-Am. It isn't ugly as the Pro-Am, but it is uglier than a Gold Crown, lol.
 
Badpenguin said:
It doesn't really make sense to go from a GC to a Diamond Professional, which is at best, a Gold Crown lookalike. In spite of the model name being "Professional", this table is rarely used outside of homes. It does not ship already put together like a Pro-Am would be, it is not as durable as a Pro-Am or a Gold Crown. I would guess that since it is a rare table it would take longer to ship. But even Diamond probably can't tell you how long their own tables will take to ship.

It is a fine table, don't get me wrong, I had one for years. But if you are expecting something like what the "pros" play on, you might be disappointed. It is not a tank like the Pro-Am. It isn't ugly as the Pro-Am, but it is uglier than a Gold Crown, lol.
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Doesn't make sense? Really? How do you know what makes sense for me?

And how do you know it's not as durable a table? Especially considering the fact that only one responsible adult will be playing on it.

It doesn't play like what the pros play on? And how do you know? It's my understanding the Professional will play the same as the ProAm.

And how can you say it's an uglier table than the Gold Crown? I've seen a lot of pics of the Professional and it looks very nice to me.

r/DCP
 
If you’re tall, the professional is a better table. The feet are inset, like a GC. On a pro-am, they are at the exact corners, and your toes will be colliding with them several times per set.

Idk why Diamond charges so much more for the professional though. Last I checked it was about 3k more. The tops are exactly the same. The frame is all that’s different.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
I own the rental property. It's a 3-car garage with a 1,000 sq ft living quarters above it. I do NOT rent it anymore. Renters are a royal pain. Three of the last four the police got involved, damage was done, and one renter got thrown in jail and then later killed in a car wreck running from the police. NO MORE RENTERS for me!

Currently the neighbors rent the entire place for storage only. After the first of the year, however, I am going to take the upstairs apartment back over again and put the Diamond Professional table up there. I believe my renters will still rent the garage stalls for storage and cars, however.

Here is a pic of the rental property. My red brick house is right next to it, about 30 feet away.

Oh, and in case anyone is wondering.......where the Diamond table will sit there are seven (7) extra floor joists underneath.
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Next time, try using Turbo Tenant, pretty good screening process, credit check and background too, and the tenant pays, not the landlords.


I love my Diamond home table, took 12 weeks at end of 2020 to get one new delivered.
 
DrCue'sProtege said:
Doesn't make sense? Really? How do you know what makes sense for me?

And how do you know it's not as durable a table? Especially considering the fact that only one responsible adult will be playing on it.

It doesn't play like what the pros play on? And how do you know? It's my understanding the Professional will play the same as the ProAm.

And how can you say it's an uglier table than the Gold Crown? I've seen a lot of pics of the Professional and it looks very nice to me.

r/DCP
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He doesn’t know.. he likes Brunswick so in his mind anyone who likes anything else doesn’t make sense to him. Lol
 
iusedtoberich said:
If you’re tall, the professional is a better table. The feet are inset, like a GC. On a pro-am, they are at the exact corners, and your toes will be colliding with them several times per set.
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You don't even need to be tall to have that issue. I'm 5'9 with size 10 feet and i hit the legs on the Pro-Ams all the time. One of the reasons i'll likely be getting a Professional (or maybe a Paragon) next summer.
 
sudocrushms said:
You don't even need to be tall to have that issue. I'm 5'9 with size 10 feet and i hit the legs on the Pro-Ams all the time. One of the reasons i'll likely be getting a Professional (or maybe a Paragon) next summer.
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Watch your nuts on the Paragon;) I tried it at one of the DCC's it was the TV table one year. That corner is SHARP!
 
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