Try it on standard tableBeen watching this tournament and seeing players I never heard of eating up 8 ball on a bar table. I thought 8 ball on a bar table was supposed to be more difficult because of congestion, but it sure does not look that way in this tournament.
Some of the manipulation of the balls to keep the runs going was super impressive. Great touch, great creativity, a very fun watch.First 10 racks between Rodney Morris and Justin Bergman, 10 B&R.
Rodney broke dry in the final 11th rack and Justin runs out for the win - 6 to 5.
That is just crazy!!
Unbelievable, one mistake, dry break, and you loose in a race to 6.Some of the manipulation of the balls to keep the runs going was super impressive. Great touch, great creativity, a very fun watch.
the only shot missed in 11 racks lolUnbelievable, one mistake, dry break, and you loose in a race to 6.
Been watching this tournament and seeing players I never heard of eating up 8 ball on a bar table. I thought 8 ball on a bar table was supposed to be more difficult because of congestion, but it sure does not look that way in this tournament.
Joe Prince's rating is 737. He seems to thrive in this format (easy table conditions, 7 footer, short shot clock) and play above that rating. Which means he has a bunch of games in the system where he plays more like a shortstop? Either that, or he has won a lot of close races against lesser competition?
In the 2025 Houston Open his performance over eight matches was a 670: https://digitalpool.com/tournaments/houston-open-nineball-main-event-2025/performance
Along with a 7-3 loss to a 770 in the mini (again a roughly 670 performance): https://digitalpool.com/tournaments/houston-open-nineball-mini-2025/performance
agree,i think that's still true for sub-750 players.
One of the more incredible claims I've ever read on the forum. I wonder if there is even a single pro player that agrees with you. You get $20,000 for showing up and an extra $20,000 if your team wins. Nobody is going to plan their entire year to be in their top form for the Mosconi. Do you think the Asians consider it the most important event in pool?The Mosconi Cup is the most important event in pool.
Uninformed. Tyler was probably the top performer on Team USA in 2024. Similarly, his unexpectedly fine performance in 2018 had a lot to do with ending Team USA's losing streak.Shane and Tyler have both let down the USA many times in the past.
America has five of the Top 100 players in the world based on Fargo, four if you don't count Gorst. Two of them are, more or less, retired from 9ball competition. In fact, the only two active Americans in the Fargo Top 100 are Shane and Skyler. Americans, as a group, have combined for exactly one WNT major since the tour began. There may be a little pride riding on the outcome here, but even if Team USA were to win 11-0, they would remain way behind Europe as cueists.What happened to national pride?
Actually, unlike the members of Team Europe, all five team members of Team USA will be competing at the International Open in Florida the week before the Mosconi. They will also hold private sessions to prepare. That's good enough for me.Shane and Tyler should be with Johan practising their break and 9 ball fundamentals.
First 10 racks between Rodney Morris and Justin Bergman, 10 B&R.
Rodney broke dry in the final 11th rack and Justin runs out for the win - 6 to 5.
That is just crazy!!
Some solid play, but the commentary was mind-blowing. For them to be awed by a player not missing a single ball in a bar table eight ball race to six is hilarious. No, it's not historic.Link is here, incredible play in that match:
Fargo includes 7 foot results. There have been a number of threads here about it:i would think the fargo is all based on big table pool, he plays the 9-ball tour in UK. do UP even report to fargo? most other brits are not rated
Fargo includes 7 foot results. There have been a number of threads here about it:
Not sure if this has been discussed or not yet but I can't understand how Fargo can be as accurate on bar tables as on 9'.
While I'm no champion I am a pretty solid player and you have to be very good to beat me. I've done lots of gambling on all sorts of equipment in my time. At this point of my life pool is just a hobby and most of my play is in leagues on bar tables. I said all that to say this...
In my experience the bar table game has much more volatility results wise than the big table game. I'm much more likely to beat a player I shouldn't on paper in a tournament match on a bar...
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maybe mike can shed some light on this. either way 737 probably has him in the top echelon of the GB9. the brits are doing about as bad as the americans when it comes to new growth.
Begs the question, how much do you spend to attend the Mosconi Cup, vs any other event?One of the more incredible claims I've ever read on the forum. I wonder if there is even a single pro player that agrees with you. You get $20,000 for showing up and an extra $20,000 if your team wins. Nobody is going to plan their entire year to be in their top form for the Mosconi. Do you think the Asians consider it the most important event in pool?
It's only money.Begs the question, how much do you spend to attend the Mosconi Cup, vs any other event?
Bergman over Thorpe any day, you should never just pick your friends, especially when the entire damn country wants you to win.Watching Bergman play makes me realise that Skyler has no clue.
Imagine picking Billy Thorpe over Justin Bergman.
I'm not Stu, but....Begs the question, how much do you spend to attend the Mosconi Cup, vs any other event?