Buddy Hall talks "Deflection"

[garczar]

Good point! You can watch these legends play 9 ball later on in the early 80s, when ESPN (I think) had all of the old champions playing each other. These are all over YOUTUBE. Most of them looked a bit lost trying to play 9 ball or this weird 7 ball variation they were playing. I enjoyed watching Irving Crane play. Even playing those goofy games, he was ALL business in his tuxedo, and Balabushka, and serious as a heart attack about winning. At one point he found a sweet spot that allowed him to make the 7 ball on the break. I forget how many consecutive games he repeated that same break with quick wins.

Sigel said when he was a kid he'd play Crane and ol Irv would hit him with a 200package and then lock him up, dead safe. Said he was brutal even playing for nothing.

 

[Matt_24]

Sigel said when he was a kid he'd play Crane and ol Irv would hit him with a 200package and then lock him up, dead safe. Said he was brutal even playing for nothing.

He was a kindly, gentile looking old fella, but a murderer on the green felt. Same as Lassiter.

 

[maha]

in 9 ball with shootout you didnt play safe often as he could push out.

you just pushed out to shots you were good at that he wasnt.

 

[Black-Balled]

Yes. Caudron uses a Longoni cf LunaNera with 11.8 tip.

Fred stays wood, maybe even wood pin?!?

The shaft is his longoni model...fc 10. Hornbeam that I believe is impregnated to be black thru and thru.

I played with one on Tuesday and yes, they're fabulous

 

[maha]

as black-balled joins the crew of falling for the advertisements.

 

[HawaiianEye]

In one old book that described aim-and-pivot, a 14mm shaft was recommended and if they had ivory ferrules, fronthand would not have been useful.

All of my original custom cues were made with 14mm shafts and ivory ferrules.

 

[GideonF]

All of my original custom cues were made with 14mm shafts and ivory ferrules.

Must deflect like a MF!

 

[HawaiianEye]

Must deflect like a MF!

I learned playing with them at a young age working in a pool hall.

I had no problem playing with deflection.

 

[Black-Balled]

as black-balled joins the crew of falling for the advertisements.

Not sure what to tell you.

Hitting a billiard ball is a completely different experience from hitting a pool ball and there is absolutely a discernable difference between quality shafts...and especially between those and mid-grade ones.

 

[garczar]

Fred stays wood, maybe even wood pin?!?

The shaft is his longoni model...fc 10. Hornbeam that I believe is impregnated to be black thru and thru.

I played with one on Tuesday and yes, they're fabulous
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went and checked it out. laminated hornbeam. gotta be a pretty stout shaft.

 

[garczar]

Not sure what to tell you.

Hitting a billiard ball is a completely different experience from hitting a pool ball and there is absolutely a discernable difference between quality shafts...and especially between those and mid-grade ones.
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i can see that. driving those big ass 3c balls around probably requires a stiff but still lively shaft.

 

[Black-Balled]

i can see that. driving those big ass 3c balls around probably requires a stiff but still lively shaft.

Yaah.

Unlike pool, there are a lot of shots that use near break speed and the differences in shafts/ tips/ taper become very apparent up there l.