What, in your opinion, is the minimum Fargo you should have before entering a WNT Open?

wlycdgr

wlycdgr

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It's been on my mind recently with Galeforce (~600) popping up again at the Vice City Classic.

Gemini AI says ~550 or so.

What do you think? Is Gemini right? Or is that number higher/lower for you? The number where, if someone entered a WNT Open with that Fargo, you wouldn't think they were being a disrespectful jackass. And, does it depend on the specific tournament / anything else?
 
If you have to make money from the tournament, 780 is kind of the break-even point if you consider all expenses.

If you want to see the tournament and are more interested in the experience and don't mind the cost of the entry, I'd say 500 is a level where you're not going to horribly embarrass yourself, and have a chance to win some games against 800-level players. Maybe lower if you already play in a lot of tournaments.
 
Follow up question: if spots are limited and you are towards/at the low end of the Fargo range, do you think etiquette requires waiting to register until late, to give as many higher rated players as possible a chance to register before you? Or is it first come first serve, and tough luck to any 810 full time pro who was hoping to make a few bucks but forgot to early-reg? Is it on the organizers to implement a "players below X rating must wait until the week before to register" type rule?
 
wlycdgr said:
Follow up question: if spots are limited and you are towards/at the low end of the Fargo range, do you think etiquette requires waiting to register until late, to give as many higher rated players as possible a chance to register before you? Or is it first come first serve, and tough luck to any 810 full time pro who was hoping to make a few bucks but forgot to early-reg? Is it on the organizers to implement a "players below X rating must wait until the week before to register" type rule?
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good post. i've been thinking along the same lines. organizers do, to a degree, follow such rules. WNT pros don't need to sweat the registration online i think, and predator has something similar. but other than that it's pretty much who clicks first
 
wlycdgr said:
Follow up question: if spots are limited and you are towards/at the low end of the Fargo range, do you think etiquette requires waiting to register until late, to give as many higher rated players as possible a chance to register before you? Or is it first come first serve, and tough luck to any 810 full time pro who was hoping to make a few bucks but forgot to early-reg? Is it on the organizers to implement a "players below X rating must wait until the week before to register" type rule?
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With larger tournaments there is no practical way to use that sort of rule in my opinion. For reference, the Texas Open for 9 ball is at the end of the month and it sold out 160 spots in 9 minutes. The waitlist was full about 2 hours later.

I would also tend to believe that if an 800 plus Fargo player wanted to play in a particular tournament, they can probably contact the organizer to cut in line, so to speak. Especially so if their sponsor also sponsored the tournament itself.

I think that if I were to register as a lower ranked player, I would go to the organizer a couple weeks beforehand and see who was on the waitlist. If there was a pro there, I would consider giving up my spot.
 
There were how many open spots in the Florida Open? Filling up doesn't seem to be an issue at these 256-player majors, US Open perhaps excepted.

But if I somehow decided I wanted to play in one, and got a spot, and found out later some pro is sniffling in a corner somewhere feeling left out...well tough luck for him. He's the pro. He should be more on top of these things.
 
wlycdgr said:
Follow up question: if spots are limited and you are towards/at the low end of the Fargo range, do you think etiquette requires waiting to register until late, to give as many higher rated players as possible a chance to register before you? Or is it first come first serve, and tough luck to any 810 full time pro who was hoping to make a few bucks but forgot to early-reg? Is it on the organizers to implement a "players below X rating must wait until the week before to register" type rule?
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The top 64 WNT-ranked players who want to play have automatic reserved spots. Don't worry about them. Due to top players not playing in every event, the top 80 or 90 are probably covered with seeded spots.

If the entries are open, enter.
 
Bob Jewett said:
The top 64 WNT-ranked players who want to play have automatic reserved spots. Don't worry about them. Due to top players not playing in every event, the top 80 or 90 are probably covered with seeded spots.

If the entries are open, enter.
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I'm sure the pros who have a spot would love the extra dead money.
 
wlycdgr said:
Follow up question: if spots are limited and you are towards/at the low end of the Fargo range, do you think etiquette requires waiting to register until late, to give as many higher rated players as possible a chance to register before you? Or is it first come first serve, and tough luck to any 810 full time pro who was hoping to make a few bucks but forgot to early-reg? Is it on the organizers to implement a "players below X rating must wait until the week before to register" type rule?
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onus should be on the organiser not the player. Don't think you can blame someone for paying their money for entering an open tournament. It's a good point though and maybe something Matchroom should consider.
 
I thought about this recently for the Oklahoma Open. I would be the definition of dead money. I believe it was double elimination, race to 9, alternating breaks, so my thoughts were that I would at least get to the table some. I may do it next year if I can improve a bit. Aside from playing poorly, I also am in bed by 9-9:30 most nights, so that's a problem.

I don't have a fargo, haven't played a tourney or money game since around 1998 or 1999 and even when I did play regularly I never played in more than $20-$50 entry fee tournaments.
 
None. It's an open.First come first serve.

WNT tried qualifiers, but my guess is they didn't get enough people to justify the process/expense. It doesn't look like they have them anymore, at least not recently.

No matter. Every amateur I see joining these opens clearly has put in the time, 550-plus Fargo or not.
 
Bob Jewett said:
Except there is no extra dead money. The total prize fund is announced well in advance. If the field does not fill, Emily pays the difference -- she is delighted by the dead money that shows up at the end.
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Fair enough. The other pros would love the easy 9-1 victories.

(Although, to get pedantic, Emily can only announce the total prize fund based on expectations of participation levels, which does include dead money. If people weren't showing up, the announced prize fund would be smaller.)
 
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