Pagulayan weighs in on CB last

[Not Dead Ted]

In a short you tube video, Alex Pagulayan states his case for CB last. It appears to me that he is advocating this more as a learning tool, rather than "this is how the pros do it."

 

[garczar]

PLEASE, not this shit again. BTW, i've seen him play a few times and he looks at OB last. What some players say and what they actually do is often miles apart.

 

[Island Drive]

In a short you tube video, Alex Pagulayan states his case for CB last. It appears to me that he is advocating this more as a learning tool, rather than "this is how the pros do it."

I look at it from the money perspective in the trenches of everyday pool rooming it.
In my era and Zars the better players always ''played'' yah making sure they knew they had a good game.
Selling/telling.

Sales: 101

PLAIN AND SIMPLE.

 

[fjk]

Not only am I unsure what ball I m supposed to look at last, I don't even know what ball I do look at last. My game may be screwed up even worse now that I'll be thinking about it.

Thanks.

 

[straightline]

Asking which ball used to be a psych move so unless jocks have magically evolved, I'd suggest deciding. Learn the spiel just in case.

...ans CBL.

 

[Jimmorrison]

It depends on the shot. There are some that you need to look at cue ball last. I’d guess for over 90% of players, it’s object ball last, on over 90% of shots

 

[straightline]

It depends on the shot. There are some that you need to look at cue ball last. I’d guess for over 90% of players, it’s object ball last, on over 90% of shots

There was a good example on one of them AZ or Tex opens. Young guy. Polish I recall. Familiar name I don't remember offhand.
Anyways, he got down glued to the stick - shot everything high ball - IMO so he had a better look past the cueball. Looked a little on the exaggerated side but his ball moved good.
UNTIL...

he's got this short draw shot to the back corner for shape on the money. Jaws the ball perfectly. End of story.

Rest of my opinion:
Parallax Prismatic Distortion. ( henceforth PPD )
He's still looking at the object ball and was blind to aforementioned distortion.

End dissertation...

 

[HawaiianEye]

It doesn't matter if whatever you are doing works.

Screw all the pool scientists.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

i've seen him play a few times and he looks at OB last. What some players say and what they actually do is often miles apart.

You might have missed this part…

It appears to me that he is advocating this more as a learning tool, rather than "this is how the pros do it."

pj
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[garczar]

You might have missed this part…

pj
chgo

are you the new forum 'post police' as well as inspector gadget, master of all pool science? How DO you find the time? I know what he said numbnuts, just showing my general disdain for all things 'CB last'.

 

[gregcantrall]

This thread .

Thread 'Experiments in looking at the cueball while delivering the stroke.'

Jan 21, 2013

In the thread Shot / stroke problem a poster put forth the proposition that looking at the cueball while delivering the stroke was "fundamentally wrong". I had already provided evidence that Willie Hoppe considered looking at the cueball while delivering the stroke as fundamentally basic. I had read Willie Hoppies book Billiards As It Should Be Played well over 20 years ago. At the time I was content with my aiming process and just chalked up the cue ball last as a 3 cushion thing. Kind of the way I considered his more upright stance an "Old...

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[gregcantrall]

Asking which ball used to be a psych move so unless jocks have magically evolved, I'd suggest deciding. Learn the spiel just in case.

...ans CBL.

Inquiring as to the breath is even better than "which ball last?"
It's an interesting study.

 

[SSP]

It doesn't matter if whatever you are doing works.

Screw all the pool scientists.

Quote of the day.......

 

[Frosty]

Well, since Alex says this I suppose I should just change how I address a shot.
Really?

 

[trob]

Jason Shaw looks at the cue ball last. He’s a world champion. I’m not a world champion so I’m not comparing myself to him and it doesn’t work for me. I focus on my the spot on the cue ball first then i look at the object ball and focus on my spot and trust the my stroke that I’ve worked hard on will hit the cue ball where I was aiming for. If the opposite works better for you then do it