Big Ko on Waxed Balls

GideonF

GideonF

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Interesting video from the Ko Bros on playing with waxed balls vs normal balls.

Much of the information as to how to deal with it is similar to Niels Feijen’s video on how to play on new cloth, but it’s still interesting.

I can’t entirely understand the translation of the comments section but maybe someone like [mention]Flakeandrun [/mention] can shed some light on what they are saying about why this is done and how common it is.

 
Get some Pledge from Walmart and try it yourself. The slick wears off so you'll have your bare balls left. If you like it avoid anything that says wax on the label. Plain silicone in the can is what users use. Don't know a suitable brand or where to get it.
 
GideonF said:
Interesting video from the Ko Bros on playing with waxed balls vs normal balls.

Much of the information as to how to deal with it is similar to Niels Feijen’s video on how to play on new cloth, but it’s still interesting.

I can’t entirely understand the translation of the comments section but maybe someone like [mention]Flakeandrun [/mention] can shed some light on what they are saying about why this is done and how common it is.

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I haven't had a look, but I imagine there's a lot of subtle (or wide open) digs at Filipinos lol
 
Not sure I understand all this, but I use hand sanitizer to clean the balls. Only few drops for each ball.

Seems to work fine. Am I missing something?
 
I had never heard of waxing the ball until the topic came up. The poolhall(s) i go to clean the balls with some product that has to be silicone based. The balls are slippery as hell and the CB slides too much. I sprayed some silicone on a rag and rubbed it on my CB and got the same effect.
 
straightline said:
Get some Pledge from Walmart and try it yourself. The slick wears off so you'll have your bare balls left. If you like it avoid anything that says wax on the label. Plain silicone in the can is what users use. Don't know a suitable brand or where to get it.
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If you use Pledge, it's not wax you feel or getting on the balls, basically silicone, and some versions of itadd a bit of mineral oil.
 
The funny thing is there’s all been all this hubbub about waxing balls since Kaci cast his aspersions at the Filipinos.

Yet no one talks about all the pool halls and many with tables at home that think car wax, I.E. Meguires, etc. are something you clean pool balls with. Wax, silicone, etc. cancels throw, it also increases length of the angle in a bank shot. These are game altering conditions. What’s insidious is that as they’re used, going into pockets and ball returns and being handled by the players, the wax wears off a little at a time, thereby reintroducing throw a little at a time, and angle of a bank starts to shorten a little at a time and it’s changing from shot to shot, game to game. That’s problematic
 
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jay helfert said:
Not sure I understand all this, but I use hand sanitizer to clean the balls. Only few drops for each ball.

Seems to work fine. Am I missing something?
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I’m surprised you missed the whole controversy a year or so ago. Kaci (and other players) accused some players (including but not limited to some Filipinos) of applying wax (or silicone) to the CB during a match. Dennis Orcollo talked about it as well on a livestream.

My understanding of the practice was that it originated in Asia as a practice aid to try to duplicate the slippery conditions the players would be facing in WNT type tournaments (new cloth and balls) - something almost impossible to find in many places. There is nothing wrong with this as a practice technique, but the allegations were that some players were secretly doing this in tournaments - thus altering the conditions mid-match.

Have you seen people waxing up the CB in practice in the PI?
 
heck many/most pool rooms put some silicone product in their ball cleaners. thats why they are so shiny in the pool room. and the balls draw so easily.

most homeowners buy ball cleaner which is the same stuff. similar or the same as a liquid car polish. it does clean the balls nice and pretty.

it also ends up in the cloth.
 
At the Pool hall we only use ball cleaner. I’m not sure what the point of putting wax or polish on the balls is unless the balls are very old and dull. Once a set gets that old we throw it out?
 
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Magictrat007 said:
At the Paul hall we only use ball cleaner. I’m not sure what the point of putting wax or polish on the balls is unless the balls are very old and dull. Once a set gets that old we throw it out?
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The usual point of putting wax or silicone on the balls, in particular the cue ball, is to make them slip and slide on the cloth. That makes it like new cloth, which slips and slides and you can get amazing draw with little effort.

I guess some people use wax to make the balls shiny, but they still get the slip and slide.

Wax on the object balls also makes them slip/slide into the pockets, and take longer angles on bank shots.
 
Bob Jewett said:
The usual point of putting wax or silicone on the balls, in particular the cue ball, is to make them slip and slide on the cloth. That makes it like new cloth, which slips and slides and you can get amazing draw with little effort.

I guess some people use wax to make the balls shiny, but they still get the slip and slide.

Wax on the object balls also makes them slip/slide into the pockets, and take longer angles on bank shots.
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And that’s exactly why we don’t use it because it changes the consistency that everyone is used to. And most people have a little something on the games. We will polish them upon request which doesn’t happen very often.
 
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