Friction is reduced so the ball slides more. Backspin holds longer so draw will require less. By the same token follow shots may require a smoother stroke due to the lack of bite off the line. IOW the ball would rather slide than hook up to perfect rolling. The ball will also die more off the cushions.
Big Ko on Waxed Balls
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George the Greek
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Thanks! I'm just experimenting and found it weird how it reversed after going basically 18 ft. It's a 2 rail kick that I like
That would probably be the lack of cushion induced spin although, the angle should widen anyway from the extra bend on the second rail. It's hard to tell without the left and right of it.
Running spin might not grab enough; making the exit look like a reverse, etc... By the same token actual reverse (anti running) spin can hold through several rails until it gets some some grip and pulls a reverse. This is common in pro billiards where the cloth speed is severely disproportionate to the more or less fixed, ball/stick speed.
You cannot use Aramith cleaner to circumvent the rule prohibiting polishing pool balls in any sanctioned tournament.
It absolutely changes the way pool balls exhibit cling; it takes hours of pool play before the balls exhibit normal throw.
It absolutely changes the way pool balls exhibit cling; it takes hours of pool play before the balls exhibit normal throw.
Magictrat007
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What should someone use ??
That's exactly what the whine is, because it changes the consistency that oppenent is used to. Their careers are a little something on the games. It is not polish them upon request which doesn’t happen very often.
I wouldn't really call it a juiced CB. I would call it a clean cue ball.Oh but some of the tricks you can play with a juiced CB!!
I would call a cue call with silicone on it juiced. They use silicone for artistic 3 cushion billiards in Europe.
I believe the official competitions are without grease.
I've heard of applying silicone directly on the cloth. That must be a barrel of laughs. VP is good at that whiz bang effect.
Flakeandrun
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Hear a bit of it in China, but that's only because there were some asian tournaments in Vietnam, and Japan, where some Chinese and Taiwanese players were on the end of some slippery Fillipino special treatment. If anything, the wax is no longer really mentioned, but it's really put a stereotype of being untrustworthy or cheaters on Fillipinos, whereas when I first moved here, they had a better reputation (Thanks to Raga, Orcollo).
Well, unless you are running a professional pool tournament, use whatever you like.
I use Aramith because I want my pool balls to remain in good condition and so the
appearance is important. Of course, after coming out of my BallStar, the pool balls
have very little throw. But the shine is restored and seems to last a pretty long time.
My earlier post included an attachment that specifies what can be be used clean the
pool balls. However, I don’t think most local pool rooms give a hoot and are just trying
to preserve and maintain their pool balls. I imagine Aramith and other cleaning products
used to restore luster and shine will be widely used. For home use, who really cares? It
is solely for your enjoyment so you can hand polish every single ball by hand if you prefer.
I want the pool balls I own to look as handsome as possible. I cannot control the quality
and cleanliness of the pool balls in a local tournament. Just like every other entrant, I’d
be using the same equipment, i.e., pool balls, based on the luck of table assignments.
So I might as well play with pool balls that please me the most and that’s Centennials.
If I wanted to get ready for a upcoming tournament, I’d practice a lot and just refrain from
cleaning my pool balls with Aramith until after the event. There is a difference with cling,
especially with long cut shots, with newly polished pool balls. So if that was ever of any
concern, just practice using the tray of pool balls you get handed at the local pool room.
I've heard of applying silicone directly on the cloth. That must be a barrel of laughs. VP is good at that whiz bang effect.
What about wear?
You stumped me with that one? That’s a question better suited for David Alciatore but I’m sure others will chime in.
Personally speaking, I am still startled that pool balls will gradually become smaller from extended play. The idea
that it happens proportionally for overall roundness of the pool ball’s shape and so gradually that this is literally
imperceptible to the naked eye, well, I am still blown away every time I think of that playing pool. I suppose that’s
why pool balls are allowed to vary in weight up to 1/2 oz. in a set of tournament pool balls, including the cue ball.
There’s also variance allowance for the diameter of the pool balls to vary in a set. Most players don’t know this.
Imagine playing 8, 9 or 10 ball and cue ball is 1/2 oz. heavier than the other balls or the 5,6, 8, 9 & 10 were a 1/2
lighter than the cue ball? Cue ball weight proximity to the object balls is a very important consideration, IMO. This
affects position play more on a 9’ table than a 7’ but regardless, cue ball roll is affected based on my experience.
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Magictrat007
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U lost me I have no idea what that response means.
That the complaint of "doctored balls" from Kos is from the perspective of match play, and woth deliberately premeditated nefarious intent no?
Not ongoing stuff (though I agree rooms and people should stick to pool-specific products!).
If you're just messing around, you can have a lot of fun with silicone!!
Try a few massē and trick shots. You'll be able to do things you may never have done B4.
That's what I was referring to Brian.I wouldn't really call it a juiced CB. I would call it a clean cue ball.
I would call a cue call with silicone on it juiced. They use silicone for artistic 3 cushion billiards in Europe.
After buying those Dynas and the Aramith set, took them both to the hall and set them alongside the balls the hall uses and you could see the diff in size with the naked eye!!
This was all new to me.
Asked the owner about the smaller balls, I'm thinking they may be a special commercial set specifically designed for hall owners or some such crap.
Nope, he said. They've worn down over the last 20 years!!
Wake up call for this kid.
I would've thought there might be visible scratches or chips, uneven wear patterns, etc. Nope.
Once cleaned, they looked good as new.
Actually the cue ball is the one that becomes smaller over time.