Shaw vs. Doung Quoc Hoang

[maha]

we the public have no idea what deals were made or if any were. so all streaming matches are really just an exhibition. as a real gambling march happens in a poolroom and not on computer screens.

but you can be sure they got a fee for having it streamed.

 

[GideonF]

we the public have no idea what deals were made or if any were. so all streaming matches are really just an exhibition. as a real gambling march happens in a poolroom and not on computer screens.

Gambling remains illegal in Vietnam. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen but it definitely wouldn’t be discussed publicly on a stream or in relation to a high profile match.

 

[maha]

they allow gambling in casinos and some sports and horse betting. where they crack down isn't so much on personal betting but on organized betting operations.

but still being a communist country you are at their mercy when doing anything. the communist party still runs things under the guise of calling it a socialist party.

 

[sjm]

I did not predict a "large contingent" of world champion players who would dominate our sport. What I do predict is a few top speed players who can compete with the other champions in a similar way as Hoang. From this group perhaps one or two will emerge as special, like the Ko brothers.

Yes, and their emergence will serve our sport well. They love their pool in Vietnam.

 

[maha]

its a nice country and nice people.

also fine you dont see many dogs running around either.

 

[straightline]

they allow gambling in casinos and some sports and horse betting. where they crack down isn't so much on personal betting but on organized betting operations.

but still being a communist country you are at their mercy when doing anything. the communist party still runs things under the guise of calling it a socialist party.

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[DieselPete]

OK, just getting a chance to watch the last bit of it. Shaw's behavior is worse than I expected. Conceding with three balls left on the table by swiping them away, barely lining up shots before firing away, looking totally disinterested...

On another note, I don't think I've spent so much time listening to a language that is so foreign to my ear. It's like a string of sounds, and not really words.

 

[SBC]

Is there a chance that both players were paid an equal appearance fee and that the amount they were playing for ($15k) was a fraction of that, or some such situation that Shaw was willing to give up winning to get the heck out of there?

Hard to imagine they played for four days for "only" 15K when we see so many guys that are borderline pros playing for far more in sets that last one or two days.

Pro pool players routinely split these prizes....but playing 4 days to 120 I would say it was not split. Plus the way Shaw acted says a lot.

 

[jay helfert]

OK...

My point, which might have been missed...

You could put on an exhibition event and through sponsorship money pay both players an appearance fee. Say, $15k each. Then put another $15k in the middle, so they will play hard.

Then one player is losing, badly, and decides that he'll take the $15k he was given (perhaps plus travel expenses) and start to mail in his effort instead of grinding like a champion.

SO...

Any idea if they were paid an appearance fee to participate in this event?

Probably some guarantee money but nothing like 15K. 5,000 tops

 

[Jaden]

The kids all love Hoang! Reminds me of Efren in the Philippines. Hoang is a national hero.

Watch out. Some of these will become top players. More to come from Vietnam.

I've been impressed with Vietnam and particularly huong for the last couple of years. I was also impressed for a while from the Poles but while they're still there, they don't seem as much of a threat as they did...

 

[Jaden]

Gambling remains illegal in Vietnam. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen but it definitely wouldn’t be discussed publicly on a stream or in relation to a high profile match.

Two players playing each other for money is not gambling. Side betting on the play, IS.

:edit: Depending on where you are, it might or might not be legally gambling to have a wager on your playing another player.

 

[maha]

yea and who knows if they were playing for 15 and if so some side action might have made it that.

but who really cares

 

[straightline]

Denomination?

 

[skogstokig]

Gambling remains illegal in Vietnam. I’m not saying it doesn’t happen but it definitely wouldn’t be discussed publicly on a stream or in relation to a high profile match.

yea.. same in almost all of east asia. but i've never met people more prone to gambling. those regulations must be truly futile.