2026 WPA Predator Men's World 10 Ball Saigon

sjm said:
Han Yu is just a wonderful player. I think she'd play even better if Wu Kun Lin trusted her a little more. He is probably not even a better pattern player than her, but he rarely just let's her make the pattern decisions without him. Like Seo Seoa, however, Han Yu keeps a good humor about it, but the overbearing Wu may be keeping her from her maximum performance.

To me, Capito and Seoa look like the team to beat.
Click to expand...

Han Yu always seems to have a calm demeanor
 
skogstokig said:
so don't have all the events going on at the same time.. it takes away from what's supposed to be a world championship. they didn't have to drag the women to vietnam and set up this jack and jill bs sideshow
Click to expand...
I agree they shouldn't be at the same time. But I like the variety of events. I think they should do the women's and doubles events concurrently as an opening act, and then do the 10b world championship after, allowing it to run as the only focus and in a reasonable time frame.

That would also allow the men who aren't doing doubles to not pay so many hotel nights (...which is probably the opposite of what the organizers want).
 
skip100 said:
It's a sadly uncommon, pleasant surprise when you don't see a scotch doubles team with a mansplaining and overbearing male player.
Click to expand...
To be fair, in most cases the man is the significantly better player. And having watched quite a few team events, I’ve seen some of those same men are also quite the director with their male teammates.
 
skip100 said:
It's a sadly uncommon, pleasant surprise when you don't see a scotch doubles team with a mansplaining and overbearing male player.
Click to expand...
Not sure if it's "mansplaining" - an overused word that fails to explain much. I am not sure it's even overbearing. In many cases, the women actually look to the men for advice or approval. Then it becomes a contagion.

Part of it rooted in social mores ,more so in some cultures than others.

I suspect the biggest part of the issue is the relative newness of mixed doubles play in pool. It's not a tradition in the sport. As such, both sexes are groping toward learning how to play with each other and accommodate each other.

Over time, mixed couples should find a better balance, especially if they play together a lot. Kazakis and Fisher are a good example.
 
jbart65 said:
I don't think missing those events this year are an issue in Vietnam. Shane went on a workout spree after the loss to Gorst in their long race. SVB was great on the U.S. swing, playing in the Florida, Arizona, Phoenix and US opens. And, of course, winning the Florida Open.

Other players in Vietnam has played very well this week even though they missed more big events than SVB. Skyler, Niels Feijen, Szewczyk, Wu Kun Lin ...

Shane just looks tired. His decision making has been erratic.
Click to expand...
Yes, but Jay has raised the jet lag issue and most of the others played in the China Open last week, so they'd be over the jet lag by now. That's one reason why missing China may have hurt Shane.
 
Last edited:
sjm said:
Yes, the pacing makes this event a major snoozefest.

Of course, for the eight men and eight women that are into the mixed doubles quarterfinals, there is enough pool to be played today, but for everyone else, it's a long, slow haul.

Also, the link to the brackets isn't working for me, so I don't know the results or the match schedule for today for any of the three events.

This is a little painful. So far, this is a very poor event from a fan standpoint.
Click to expand...

try this one stu:


works for me. match times aren't published, or at least they aren't visible on my android
 
  • Like
Reactions: sjm
John oleson said:
I was in Saigon 71-75, beautiful place.

Can only imagine now. Very gracious people.
Click to expand...
‘65-‘66 for me. Surprisingly hip nightclub scene then, and I still remember the giant shrimp served in the Cho Lon restaurants. Matches are being streamed live on Amazon Prime, but with ads (tedious viewing). Slicker venue than I expected, and likely those handling may be the grandchildren of the street urchins that offered to rent their sister 😁.
 
skogstokig said:
the big matches of next round is

big kaci v duong quoc hoang
albin v alcaide

i guess they'll play them tomorrow
Click to expand...
I've got my eye on Mario He and Moritz Neuhausen, who met in the final of the WNT European Open earlier this year. It was a match in which both really impressed. Theirs seems like a good match on paper.
 
Last edited:
I watched some of the mixed doubles. In this format the obvious difference in ability between the best women and best men is very apparent. Not even close! The men play like the 800 shooters they are and the women often look like 600 speed, with easy misses and failed safeties.
 
jay helfert said:
I watched some of the mixed doubles. In this format the obvious difference in ability between the best women and best men is very apparent. Not even close! The men play like the 800 shooters they are and the women often look like 600 speed, with easy misses and failed safeties.
Click to expand...

Often yes, but I think Seoa and Capito made a similar amount of obvious mistakes (not many), and had good recoveries when they fell out of position.

Edit: Han Yu and Kun Lin Wu had a similar dynamic, I thought they were playing equally well from what I could see.
 
Last edited:
I'm staying optimistic but tomorrow, the men's event, with one round only, will not feature any of the sixteen players that have already qualified for Stage 2, meaning many of pool's biggest headliners have the day off. Still, by Thursday, this event should start heating up, and I think it will wow us when the late rounds arrive.

Like so many, I am greatly enjoying the mixed doubles. Only the old fogies among us will recall that an attempt was made in 1993 to arrange things so that the pro men and pro women would often share events and venues, but it just didn't happen. Watching the mixed doubles makes me think of what might have been back then.

The best is yet to come in Saigon. Let's enjoy it to the max.
 
jay helfert said:
I watched some of the mixed doubles. In this format the obvious difference in ability between the best women and best men is very apparent. Not even close! The men play like the 800 shooters they are and the women often look like 600 speed, with easy misses and failed safeties.
Click to expand...
Han Yu has been the exception. She carries a Fargo somewhere around 770, is one of the best pattern players in the history of the women's game, and she has the perfect composure for mixed doubles competition.

I'd love to see Robbie Capito/Seo Seoa vs Han Yu/Wu Kun Li in the mixed doubles final. Let's see if we get it.
 
sjm said:
I'm staying optimistic but tomorrow, the men's event, with one round only, will not feature any of the sixteen players that have already qualified for Stage 2, meaning many of pool's biggest headliners have the day off. Still, by Thursday, this event should start heating up, and I think it will wow us when the late rounds arrive.

Like so many, I am greatly enjoying the mixed doubles. Only the old fogies among us will recall that an attempt was made in 1993 to arrange things so that the pro men and pro women would often share events and venues, but it just didn't happen. Watching the mixed doubles makes me think of what might have been back then.

The best is yet to come in Saigon. Let's enjoy it to the max.
Click to expand...
A full day with a single round of losers bracket matches only is bizarre.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top