He never became a snooker player just started on snooker.
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i've never heard that. source?
i would doubt they even had snooker tables in his small hometown
At least he didn’t start on a 7ft.
Daryl Peach was a snooker player before he switched to pool.
He won the 2007 world 9ball championship.
SVB is the only American to win this in the last 23 years since Earl Strickland in 2002.
Sorry but I can’t consider Gorst as an American when we talk about skill and level of play since he did not acquired these in the USA.
For comparison, in the 10 years before that (1990-2000), 5 Americans won it.
He even worked at a snooker club
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What’s truly mind boggling is that over 50 years ago America was first in education in the world and then Jimmy Carter established the US Department of Education and it’s been downhill ever since.Beyond sport what are we winning in? Education
That’s scary,
you're not thinking of jayson here (who worked at a snooker club)?
I am
'I switched sports after fight in a snooker hall - now I'm competing in pool's Ryder Cup' | Other | Sport | Express.co.uk
A pool player has discussed a fight he was involved in at a snooker hall as a youngster.
www.express.co.uk
Him via an interview. I think it was an article. Something like he wanted to be a snooker player but switched to pool.
People seem to ovelook poker's effect on pool. A LOT of guys/gals that might have played pool saw that poker was a FAR easier/quicker way to make money. I know a few myself who quit pool and either play poker or work in casinos. Big table pool will never approach barbox's popularity in this country. Too many good/great paying BB events all over the place. They have no incentive to play on big tables.
If buyins and stakes are raised, the fields will be much narrower since regular players don’t want to invest anymore as the top 2/4 are the same anyway. We don’t have people with pockets full of money loving pool at least not here in Finland. That’s why ie. calcuttas don’t really draw money and are rarely organized.
Well those are not amatuer events, they are events that amatuer play in and many of the amatuers get in the Money. Its not like the Pro's only play short stops in these events, they dont choose their opponents, they play whoever they end up facing which often times is each other.
As far as the 9' table argument, all of the Pro's have 9' tables at home or to their access and thats what they practice on, so theres no need to blame the poor performance on table size...,
The blame of bar boxes is not at the current pros but the inability to produce a lot more high skill level players.
Just look at the Fargo lists
Well, this may mean your players don’t have as much desire to improve or compete at a higher level as you think. I am always willing to play a bigger tournament as dead money when they come around and so are other players I know. Not for huge money, but why wouldn’t your players pay 100-200 to play a tournament if they got a chance to draw your top players. 64 guys in a 100 entry you have a shot at an envelope with more than 750 in it. Maybe we Americans seek more competition than you think. I guess that was my point. There is a pool player development problem in the US. But table size, heart or lack thereof, or laziness aren’t really the issues IMO.
The waning ability of the U.S. to develop great pros is no mystery to we aficionados. The pay is too small. The cost is too big. And there's no real organization locally or statewide to promote the game, as there is in parts of Europe and Asia.
We all get the pay aspect. No need to rehash.
Nor is there much likelihood of youth pool leagues developing, outside of a high school pool club here or there.
Which means the main path for U.S. pool players who aspire to become pros begins at home.
Most, if not all, of the best American players today grew up in houses that had good pool tables. They also have a parent or parents who play the game and are willing to support, if not actively encourage, their kids. SVB, Tyler Styer, Savannah Easton and Shane Wolford come to mind.
Which brings us to cost. It's a huge barrier to entry, but not just in the obvious ways.
We all know pool halls are inhospitable to youngsters, by and large. They are expensive to play in and the prevalence of alcohol is a limiting factor, culturally, socially and legally.
The only way a person will be turned on to the game at a young-enough age is if his or her parents buy a good table. That's not an insignificant expense. Throw in some good sticks and balls and now you are looking at a few thousand dollars in upfront investment.
A big hidden cost is ... space. Many homes lack big-enough basements or other rooms suitable for a 9-foot table.
I have a very big house, for instance, but an awkward design means I'd have to spend ... $100,000-plus to get a room big enough for a 9-foot table.
That's why I have a 7-foot table, for now, while I consider an expansion.
Being oblivious to the pool scene from 1980 to 2020, I only recently learned of all the blame bar tables get.
Personally, I don't buy it. I started out on small table when I was young and learned to love the game. When I got back into pool five years ago, I bought a 7-foot table and learned all the fundamentals. But I go to a good pool hall with 9-foot GCs to play the game at the highest level.
Sure, there is an adjustment, especially with speed. But pretty much all of my game carries over. Because I put the effort into it.
Players who really want to get better will advance to 9-foot tables. Nothing is stopping them. If they are happy on bar boxes, they were never meant to go much further than that.
We all get the pay aspect. No need to rehash.
Nor is there much likelihood of youth pool leagues developing, outside of a high school pool club here or there.
Which means the main path for U.S. pool players who aspire to become pros begins at home.
Most, if not all, of the best American players today grew up in houses that had good pool tables. They also have a parent or parents who play the game and are willing to support, if not actively encourage, their kids. SVB, Tyler Styer, Savannah Easton and Shane Wolford come to mind.
Which brings us to cost. It's a huge barrier to entry, but not just in the obvious ways.
We all know pool halls are inhospitable to youngsters, by and large. They are expensive to play in and the prevalence of alcohol is a limiting factor, culturally, socially and legally.
The only way a person will be turned on to the game at a young-enough age is if his or her parents buy a good table. That's not an insignificant expense. Throw in some good sticks and balls and now you are looking at a few thousand dollars in upfront investment.
A big hidden cost is ... space. Many homes lack big-enough basements or other rooms suitable for a 9-foot table.
I have a very big house, for instance, but an awkward design means I'd have to spend ... $100,000-plus to get a room big enough for a 9-foot table.
That's why I have a 7-foot table, for now, while I consider an expansion.
Being oblivious to the pool scene from 1980 to 2020, I only recently learned of all the blame bar tables get.
Personally, I don't buy it. I started out on small table when I was young and learned to love the game. When I got back into pool five years ago, I bought a 7-foot table and learned all the fundamentals. But I go to a good pool hall with 9-foot GCs to play the game at the highest level.
Sure, there is an adjustment, especially with speed. But pretty much all of my game carries over. Because I put the effort into it.
Players who really want to get better will advance to 9-foot tables. Nothing is stopping them. If they are happy on bar boxes, they were never meant to go much further than that.
Could you point out what it takes to get a football scholarship so the “ American kids are lazy” idea could be dispelled? I hinted at it saying American kids work hard at what they are interested in but didn’t detail anything. I’ve seen our kids and their friends in high school sports and activities…. Always gave them the chance to get interested in pool but they didn’t. And I am not sad about it.
The American demographic pool thinking here, does not feel like MR support thinking in Europe, cept for theUS Open Purchase, a way in, but no support on the country that created this game. bu$$ine$$ sometimes doesn't think straight.
Actually, the game comes from Europe
You are referring to American sports.
How are we doing in soccer, cricket and F1 racing? Edit Boxing the international sports
NBA NFL nascar and MLB are American do ofc those are doing well.
Think…..beyond America - which pool clearly is a global stage.
What global stage is America excelling in?
Beyond sport what are we winning in? Education
Basketball is a world sport in which many European and Asian countries have a ton of up-and-coming players. Two of the top 5 current players in the NBA are from Europe. Baseball has a huge presence in latin countries and asian countries aswell. It very much is a world sport. The US has no pro lacrosse attention and F1 racing is very little hear compared to stock car racing.
But if you want to keep going on and dismiss these sports, the US excels in swimming and gymnastics. Two sports that have carried the olympics for decades now.
And it's funny how everyone says that what is america winning in? Yet the majority of immigration is to this country. Wonder why that is?
Don't ask me why I'm responding to an obvious troll post.