150 BALLS RUN Irving Crane vs Joseph Balsis 1966

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Hello all........
Can anyone accurately depict the layout of the balls prior to Irving Crane pocketing the two at 11:21 For the life of me I can't figure out the chain reaction that resulted in him making that shot. The YT video I have access to is entirely too dark to make heads or tails out of. Thanks in advance. This is the video for reference:
 
This shot really doesn't look that hard and not hard to find I would say for people who have played enough straight pool. I will say it is very cool when I make a shot back to the corner I am standing in, by some chain reaction, or kick combination. I have a shot like this I made in one of my runs, but couldn't find it looking briefly through videos. Now that said, the shots where the secondary ball goes like in The Hustler, I don't see those very well. That isn't obvious. This run I made is only 27 balls, but the shot I made at 10;30 was way less obvious than this shot by Irving Crane.
 
The pocket sizes in this match make me wonder:
a) How many more balls modern players could run on this older setup
b) How Crane/Balsis/Mosconi/Lassiter/Greenleaf/Caras/Martin/West etc. would fare on a 9' Diamond with 4.25" pockets

The side pockets look to be particularly generous compared to modern equipment
 
Milkman said:
The pocket sizes in this match make me wonder:
a) How many more balls modern players could run on this older setup
b) How Crane/Balsis/Mosconi/Lassiter/Greenleaf/Caras/Martin/West etc. would fare on a 9' Diamond with 4.25" pockets

The side pockets look to be particularly generous compared to modern equipment
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LOL. How would today's players have fared on the 10-footer with slow cloth? Crane and Mosconi both managed runs of over 300, and Greenleaf played better than either of them on a ten-footer.

Actually, they tried having the Derby City 14.1 challenge one year on a ten-foot table. After five days of qualifying, in which most of the elite straight pool players had many attempts, the only player that ran over 100 was a snooker player named Pettman. No, not even 14.1 superstar John Schmidt could manage a 100-ball run. Today's players shoot straighter than their counterparts of the 10-foot era, but their pattern play and problem solving are not as good, and the ten-footer at Derby City quickly exposed it.
 
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It does make my eye twitch when the current crop of players start bumping into balls all the time, fighting their way out of problems they put themselves into. My comment was not to disparage the legends or prop up the current era shotmakers. I just couldn’t help but notice the parking garage located in the center of the long rail.
 
batmmann5 said:
This shot really doesn't look that hard and not hard to find I would say for people who have played enough straight pool. I will say it is very cool when I make a shot back to the corner I am standing in, by some chain reaction, or kick combination. I have a shot like this I made in one of my runs, but couldn't find it looking briefly through videos. Now that said, the shots where the secondary ball goes like in The Hustler, I don't see those very well. That isn't obvious. This run I made is only 27 balls, but the shot I made at 10;30 was way less obvious than this shot by Irving Crane.
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It's hard to tell exactly what happened in that shot but your reaction says it all. I love when crazy shots actually work!
 
Vince_Former_BB said:
Hello all........
Can anyone accurately depict the layout of the balls prior to Irving Crane pocketing the two at 11:21 For the life of me I can't figure out the chain reaction that resulted in him making that shot. The YT video I have access to is entirely too dark to make heads or tails out of. Thanks in advance. This is the video for reference:
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Looks like at least 5-6 balls were involved in some series of both caroms and combos which allowed him to make this shot.

When initially looking at it, I thought he hit the striped ball directly in front, but after looking at it again, it appears he hit the ball located to the left of the striped ball quite thin, never touching the striped ball, which is why he had to hit it so hard.
 
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No doubt the likes of Crane, Balsis, Mosconi, etc could clean up no matter the equipment.

It’s not so much the large size of the pockets on these old GCs, but the number of available shots beacuse of the open pocket lanes that make working through congestion/clusters easier. Still, you have to know how to play smart educated patterns.
 
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