Dealings with Joe Salazar Connoisseur of Cues

YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT I HAVE, OR WHAT ANYONE ELSE MIGHT HAVE UNDER A CONSIGNMENT AGREEMENT WITH JOE!

I LIKED JOE SALAZAR, BUT, YOU CAN BE REST ASSURED, I COVERED MY _SS PRIOR TO TURNING OVER MY PROPERTY TO JOE!!!

NOBODY LIKES TO BE YELLED AT IN ALL CAPS, EITHER.
 
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I have not read the whole thread
I apologize…..but
The probate people and the attorneys have to understand the status of the items that were not joe’s own cues
And what was not his but given to him for repair or consignment
The ones trying to screw the rightful owners are scumbags
In my opinion
 
Well this story is not over, and apparently the Court in Texas will decide something. Sadly the Salazar Family did not apparently try and sort out what Cues Joe owned, and what Cue were Consigned to Joe for Sale. Rturn Cue to Owner upon Joe death.

I am not sure if Joe kept books logging in its consigned, logging them out when sold, with payment to consignee info. Or records of Cues returned that did not sell.

Paper trails always helps with these matters, not sure if Joe was that organized in his business.

In one way I feel sorry for Joes family if he was not organized with a set of Books with good records what Cues Joe Owned, and what Cues were on Consignment.

JMHO
Joe did notate the full information on every cue he had. I saw him refer to his info sheet more than once.
 
I have not read the whole thread
I apologize…..but
The probate people and the attorneys have to understand the status of the items that were not joe’s own cues
And what was not his but given to him for repair or consignment
The ones trying to screw the rightful owners are scumbags
In my opinion
When outright greed rears it's ugly head!
 
...said in all caps by the person that said "nobody likes to be yelled at in all caps!"

Now that you’ve lowered your forum voice from the all-caps shouting, I can go back to typing in lowercase.

But let me be clear: I’m not the person you should be targeting with cryptic posts. If you have something to say to me, say it directly. Send me a private message.

Word of advice: Too many cooks (AZBers) in the kitchen (Discussion Forum) can ruin the stew (objective).
 
Now that you’ve lowered your forum voice from the all-caps shouting, I can go back to typing in lowercase.

But let me be clear: I’m not the person you should be targeting with cryptic posts. If you have something to say to me, say it directly. Send me a private message.

Word of advice: Too many cooks (AZBers) in the kitchen (Discussion Forum) can ruin the stew (objective).
Hypocritic reply!

Review your posts from the beginning.

Blame the victims!
 
Hypocritic reply!

Review your posts from the beginning.

Blame the victims!

I never blamed the victims. But if you think I’m fair game to take your anger out on, you’re barking up the wrong tree.

And I’m no hypocrite. I was offering hypotheticals and practical advice for anyone who wants to protect themselves when dealing with consignments and similar matters.

After seeing the direction the thread(s) were taking, I chose to remove my posts. And I explained why, that social media is not the appropriate place to air legal matters, particularly matters that are still in progress.

If a cue were stolen from a pool room or someone failed to mail a cue after being paid for it, I can certainly understand bringing that concern to social media and a pool-related forum like this. That’s different from publicly dissecting an ongoing legal matter.

Again, if you have a beef with me, I’m asking you to take it to private messages. I’ll respond in kind.
 
Hypocritic reply!

Review your posts from the beginning.

Blame the victims!
Doesn't read to me that JAM is "blaming" anyone.
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Seems to be a touchy subject. Hopefully everyone with a dog in this fight is made whole.

Let's keep the back forth respectful.
The above goes for all.
👍
 
I would get someone from our “community” in good stead and with a thick skin to oversee the process. Joe’s wife probably should just step back and perhaps put out an agreement every interested party can chime in with their desires. But, this person needs to be compensated period. If it does in fact go to probate you’re looking at at least $250hr. That would make it difficult for anyone to come out whole in this situation. I can think of several people who have the trust of folks in our world but what an undertaking it would be. No winners here.
 
I don't believe that that law applies to this situation. Anyone can quote any law that favors them and say that it applies, doesn't make it so.
People’s property held by a business in a husbands name doesn’t automatically make it the wife’s property.

So I think you’re correct that this lady’s weird interpretation of the law won’t hold up.

Unless this guy was operating as an individual not a business.

I would check tax records first if I was a lawyer.
 
People’s property held by a business in a husbands name doesn’t automatically make it the wife’s property.

So I think you’re correct that this lady’s weird interpretation of the law won’t hold up.

Unless this guy was operating as an individual not a business.

I would check tax records first if I was a lawyer.
The laws governing "bailment" apply to businesses as well as to individuals, neither can simply confiscate another's property without due cause.
 
The laws governing "bailment" apply to businesses as well as to individuals, neither can simply confiscate another's property without due cause.
Yeah I get that. My assumption is that she was going with the “prove it’s yours” angle or simply that they can’t prove it.

That is a lot more logical if this guy didn’t have a website, didn’t report income and wasn’t operating like a real business. If this was just a side hustle she can say cue collecting was his hobby so just like his other possessions she claims ownership.

That is of course really hard to do if this guy was running a legitimate business that easily shows customers properties in his possession.
 
Yeah I get that. My assumption is that she was going with the “prove it’s yours” angle or simply that they can’t prove it.

That is a lot more logical if this guy didn’t have a website, didn’t report income and wasn’t operating like a real business. If this was just a side hustle she can say cue collecting was his hobby so just like his other possessions she claims ownership.

That is of course really hard to do if this guy was running a legitimate business that easily shows customers properties in his possession.
If the affected parties have email correspondence with Joe, containing details, photographs of their cue/s, some form of contractual arrangement/s, etc, they might have a better shot than just verbal agreement. I don't know his Wife/family, but if they were together for any length of time, I have a hard time believing that she didn't understand at least some scope of his dealings. Just my opinion/s. A tough situation for the parties involved.
 
If the affected parties have email correspondence with Joe, containing details, photographs of their cue/s, some form of contractual arrangement/s, etc, they might have a better shot than just verbal agreement. I don't know his Wife/family, but if they were together for any length of time, I have a hard time believing that she didn't understand at least some scope of his dealings. Just my opinion/s. A tough situation for the parties involved.
Sounds like she clearly knows the value or potential value of the property.
 
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