Dealings with Joe Salazar Connoisseur of Cues

Seems to me she's on notice that many cues are not hers to legally dispose of. Whether or not, as she states she is not responsible for her dead husband, that still doesn't give her the right to the cues, that just means you can't go after a deceased person. But you can go after her especially now that she knows they were not her husbands. She's a crook plain and simple and should be prosecuted for theft if she indeed thinks she can keep the cues.
 
j2pac said:
If the affected parties have email correspondence with Joe, containing details, photographs of their cue/s, some form of contractual arrangement/s, etc, they might have a better shot than just verbal agreement. I don't know his Wife/family, but if they were together for any length of time, I have a hard time believing that she didn't understand at least some scope of his dealings. Just my opinion/s. A tough situation for the parties involved.
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Someone made a post that makes sense. Friend is FFL Owns a Small Gun Shop, he is in an areas with lot of Older People. Many times a Family of someone who died has some Firearms they want to dispose of.

Friend either buys them out right, or will do a consignment sale that net more money if the person is not in a rush to sell. My friend has like a Consignment Contract he fills out with completed description, serial number, etc. This agreement is signed by both my friend and person doing consignment. Each party gets copy.

Wonder how many of those who say they had Cue with Joe for Consignment have any real paperwork to back up their claim of
Ownership & Consignment Agreement.

Someone told me long ago in business, or personal deal TRUST GOD, all other have Written Agreements. Bad News is a Contract for Services, like Consignment Sale is only as good as the person you're dealing with to honor their agreement.
 
Depending on the State & Type of Business sometimes a Business License is not required. If selling goods, a Resale Permit might be required, and State County & City Sales Tax Collected.
 
Bishop said:
Then it’s a lot harder for this wife to claim the property is hers.
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Well the Wife is in control of the Cues, Joe had on Consignment, can go to her home and force her to do anything she don't want to do. This is a Civil Matter now, it's Lawyer & Court time. Wonder how backed up the Court System is in Texas, and if they have Small Claim's Courts in Texas. Those Court have limit of Dollar Value and it varies State by State.

Guides: Small Claims Cases: General Information

Information about small claims cases in Texas justice courts.
guides.sll.texas.gov guides.sll.texas.gov

Surprise in Texas you can go after as much as 20K in Small Claims Court. Bad news is if you one of the Cue Owner trying to recover Property, or Value, you going to have to make trip to Texas to chase a solution. Then even if you win Judgement, you have to hope thevdefendent complies. If not another long road to try and get your judgment.
 
IF she wins that Tx case she won't be obligated to do shit with them. Joe has/had a son that helped him set up. He'll probably flip them all if that's the case. Bad deal all around.
 
garczar said:
IF she wins that Tx case she won't be obligated to do shit with them. Joe has/had a son that helped him set up. He'll probably flip them all if that's the case. Bad deal all around.
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As I understand the legal doc we saw briefly, it was just about the cues being in probate or not. That does not change the real ownership of the cues. The problem is how to recover them.
 
Bob Jewett said:
As I understand the legal doc we saw briefly, it was just about the cues being in probate or not. That does not change the real ownership of the cues. The problem is how to recover them.
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Speaking from experience from back in 1970's, you can go to Court, get Judgement in your favor. Unless you are dealing with person who is honorable, and pays judgement. You could be looking at a long and painful process to collect judgement. Courts are not obligated to be your personal assistant. Finding assets, or property, that is all on the person with the judgement in their favor.

As I asked before, and have not seen reply too unless I missed it.

How many people “say” Joe had their Cues on consignment?

How many of these people are actually working on getting their Cues back?

Last how many of these people have paperwork, photos “their” cue, and last paperwork showing Joe received Cues for Consignment Sale and Terms of the agreement in writing.

Most Judges like more then he said she said, written document have more power then some who said he said.
 
Bob Jewett said:
As I understand the legal doc we saw briefly, it was just about the cues being in probate or not. That does not change the real ownership of the cues. The problem is how to recover them.
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That’s not what the document was. It wasn’t anything to do with probate.

Someone here is suing to get their cues back and she is asking the court to throw it out.

Hopefully they will come back on here after and let us know what happened.
 
Bob Jewett said:
As I understand the legal doc we saw briefly, it was just about the cues being in probate or not. That does not change the real ownership of the cues. The problem is how to recover them.
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If one obtains a judgement against another and the judgement debtor fails to honor it, one can always hire a marshal to recover the judgement for them and/or place a lien against their personal property, including their home.
 
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CocoboloCowboy said:
Speaking from experience from back in 1970's, you can go to Court, get Judgement in your favor. Unless you are dealing with person who is honorable, and pays judgement. You could be looking at a long and painful process to collect judgement. Courts are not obligated to be your personal assistant. Finding assets, or property, that is all on the person with the judgement in their favor.

As I asked before, and have not seen reply too unless I missed it.

How many people “say” Joe had their Cues on consignment?

How many of these people are actually working on getting their Cues back?

Last how many of these people have paperwork, photos “their” cue, and last paperwork showing Joe received Cues for Consignment Sale and Terms of the agreement in writing.

Most Judges like more then he said she said, written document have more power then some who said he said.
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I won in Small Claims court and the owner of the business refused to pay. I paid a deputy sheriff to put a Till Tap on his business. He went in and took the money from the cash register as soon as each transaction ended. He collected all that was owed to me!
 
to get paid or your cues back you have to make them miserable enough to end it or win a judgement.

or get lucky and have the police involved and they threaten with stolen property. at this point that is what is would to try first. costs nothing and starts the miserableness.
 
jay helfert said:
I won in Small Claims court and the owner of the business refused to pay. I paid a deputy sheriff to put a Till Tap on his business. He went in and took the money from the cash register as soon as each transaction ended. He collected all that was owed to me!
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Till Taps work, also having a Keeper in business works also.

Problem with Joe is there is no B & M Business to go after.
 
There may be more than 100 plaintiffs potentially here. Someone here with a good attorney could file a class action lawsuit and get the attention of the local DA........maybe. She will have to be forced into court or else if she waits long enough; then maybe everyone will just go away.
 
Baby Huey said:
There may be more than 100 plaintiffs potentially here. Someone here with a good attorney could file a class action lawsuit and get the attention of the local DA........maybe. She will have to be forced into court or else if she waits long enough; then maybe everyone will just go away.
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Well I keep asking the same question over, and over. Wonder how many of the Cue Owners, have some sort of written agreement, aka contract signed by Joe?

You mention a Class Action & Attorney above, do you have any idea? What an Attorney would require as a retainer? Could be 10K or More.
 
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