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"APA in Fulton, NY" is the title of the thread. " Yes - we all can read that. So what's the name of the LO, the location where this happened and the individuals involved? What's so complicated about that?

This is a long thread so I might have missed it but WHAT IS THE NAME OF THE APA LEAGUE OPERATOR you are talking about? What city, what host location, name of opponent? I want to take you seriously but you're making it tough. Details. Or be quite. Please.

Go go www.poolplayers.com , look on right side of screen for their "Find the APA near you" search box and enter your locator info. It will take you to the info you seek.

"... How about this one, during the city finals: "You can't go to the bathroom during a match. You forfeit." This rule has been in effect for years in the Jackson County, Mo (greater Kansas City) tournament to prevent illegal coaching OR delay of game. All players are allowed one time out...

I love threads like this. And I have been an APA LO since 1980.

"... I have come to the table at the end of the night to sign-off on the scoresheets and seen where the other teams scorekeepers have maybe marked three or four total safeties where I had about 20-25 marked. I can't count the number of times this has happened. So, when two teams play each other...

",,, but waive the $25 annual dues." The local LO didn't waive (he can't) the dues, he paid it out of his own pocket. He can do that. Many of us do it every year for special situations that are brought to our attention. Plus contributions to local "in memory of ..." tournaments and various...

"I also like the fact that the USAPL is a supporter of the PRO tour........." What "PRO tour"?

Just checked in the APA national player database. There is no "Sandy Bagger" or anything close listed, either current or purged. Might you be referring to some other league? Not that we care. LOL.

In my 30 years of being an APA league operator I have found that many times the player who proclaims "everybody cheats, blah, blah, blah, etc" is really himself a cheater who recently lost to an honest player and just can't stand it. Sad. But very telling about the player who makes such a...

"... You should forward this entire forum to them. HA HA " Trust me. This thread has been brought to the attention of the folks in Lake St Louis.

What "...visit to KC ... for pool clinic"? Details please. Much appreciated.

Might it be because the APA DQ's more sandbaggers per capita than the rest? At least in Jackson County, Missouri, where the APA is larger than all other billiard leagues put together. And those kicked out of APA must have someone else to blame? Right? It's little fun to have to take...

Whatever his game, he apparently hustled those Roman soldiers and they cooked up all of that religous stuff as an excuse to get even. Which they did. But, oh the consequences. (Yes, Yes, I know. But I'm going to hell anyway)

I even remember having to get up, walk across the room and turn the TV dial to change channels. ABC, NBC or CBS - take your pick - because that's all there was.

" ... set the record straight hopefully... " It's your call but wouldn't that require participation by both interested parties? Just a thought.

Great thread. Very informative.

Congratulations and "good luck" to you and the girlfriend. I hope you finish in FIFTH place, right behind my four teams from the Kansas City area.

"One thing I cant understand about the APA. You know that someone involved with the APA has to come on here and read some of the things that are said about their league. With that being said why don't they check into some of these things and try to make it better..." You mean like me (been LO...

" ... No names need be mentioned. I believe you Ken. So should everyone else. You have nothing to prove..." I don't believe you people. What a bunch of zombies. Please keep bashing the APA. It's good for growth of the league.