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i don't know man ...that sucker is rough ... and if the internals (rubber and slate ) are in the same condition as the outside i would say this thing would need some work .... clearly it is missing the rail skirts, veneers etc ...which also makes it hard to identify ....

I would also add that the brunswicks don't have a made in date ...they say 1896 on them ....because that is when they started makin em....actually they started in 1845 ....but that's a different story my 1916 Kling says the same thing ..... go to the website and try to match up the table ...

can you post a picture of the pockets?

I didn't have to sand the bondo hardly at all ....if you use a razor scraper just as it is about to be dry you can get it almost perfect and usually need little to no sanding ....

use bondo to fill the gouge ...scratches are probably okay... put the bondo in the gouge ...when it is almost fully dry then use a razor scraper to scrape off the excess .. i don't know about using the slate in a inverted position...i would defer

You are right ... i guess it depends how close to exact he wants to get...if he's happy with the pocket consistency as it stands now; then the facings will work .... if not then he has to open the can of worms as you suggest ....

my issue is, and this is why i didn't use the glue, if you don't know how much the cloth will stretch ..then how do you know how far in to apply the glue on the long side? i just envisioned an expensive mess ....and went to staples ....killed my wrists but came out very nice .... anyway...

bingo ! .... the problem is 860, 860 HR and 760 all stretch a different amount ....RKC has noticed a decline in the amount of stretch you can get out of the new simonis 860 formula .....it's buried in a thread somewhere super 77 spray will not work ..you need the scotch grip 10....a little...

I think it also depends on how much you want to tighten the pockets up. Putting 1/4" 60 durometer neoprene facings will tighten up the pockets without subrail extensions ... I got mine on amazon and cut them to fit. I used a pneumatic mini belt sander from harbor freight to shave em down...

serious as a heart-attack http://www.iwansimonis.com/?page=faq&language=en

to find out if you have it upside down you can also black light the cloth ...you should see simonis 760 light up .... if you don't see that then this is not simonis or it is upside down. a close up picture of the cloth will also help... imo, simonis is pretty much as slick as it will be right...

neatsfoot oil works pretty good and absorbs into the leather as to not leave residue on the balls ....but it sounds like they need to be replaced... what kind of table is this?

looks like they were operating on the "fast and loose" principal ...:rolleyes: funny though it looks like they got the cloth on the rails pretty tight ...

great info ....amazing that those were all 6 legged beasts maybe even 10 footers ....I almost like the 4 leg one better because the lines down the side are not disrupted ... I will try to post some more pics later ...

it was hard ...but it was fun and I learned a lot of things that will probably come in handy some day...... I'm almost a little sad that I don't have a table to work on now ....but now I guess I have time to improve my game..... thanks again to everyone here at AZB ...

I would just try to feel them out ...and it's hard to be tactful but you need to just probe them a bit .....i.e. get them talking about how they do the setup and what all is involved ...say you are just very interested in how it is done and the details should come as you talk to them .....I...

nose height is 1 15/32 ....slightly high but I put the cushions at the top of the setting strip ....next time I re-cloth I will set them to the bottom of the strip .... I know what you are getting at, however, ....here is what brunswick THEMSELVES had to say on the matter.... "K-66 profile...

thank you .... yeah I just used RKC's system ....i did not use the carpenters when I got to the advanced leveling part ...it was just too long .... the advanced leveling pulls the sag from the individual slates ....but before that he says you are looking for a "precise average" ......so ...

more images also I bought a little air belt sander from harbor freight for $20 ....worked great ....very loud though ....made easy work of the cushions and facings ...

Thanks to AZ I was able to redo what someone else could not. Had some fun but it was a lot of work.... here are some pics ....I tried to use everything I learned on AZ to get this done....thanks to everyone who contributes to this site ... obviously it's not perfect ....and I want to say...