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I believe the effect has a lot to do with the relative masses of the cue ball, and the pack of 3, 9,10 or 15 balls. In a gross simplification, I've always thought about it as similar to throwing a ball at a wall, or even the ground (Earth). The ball bounces back. Exactly. My understanding...

I've been wondering this too.

Very cool, Wei. Thanks. I was playing around with this a little last night on a table that made it nearly impossible to get a tight rack. Even so, I'm fairly certain I had the path of the 4 and 5 balls incorrect in that original diagram. It's not quite as pretty, but for what it's worth...

By all means, print away...

Yikes. "rough" would be a very generous description of the accuracy in that diagram. Regardless...it would be an honor to be published in the cathedral that is the Patrick Johnson pool room. :) PM on its way.

It looked like the same pattern against Shane. That was actually the first match that I noticed him playing the 8,9,10 cluster at the end of the rack, and he was definitely playing the 2 and 3 in the side pockets for that entire match. He did get some bad rolls on the break, but he played some...

Near as I can tell, this is what Corey was doing. Granted, John Schmidt watched it from nearly the same place I did, and he was really struggling to make it work. Take this for what it is- an amateur who's trying to learn from the pros and from those on this board who know more than I do...

I talked to Corey at the Concept Cues booth Saturday night. He said that he lost his Woodpecker cue and his US Open case. According to Corey, he picked up the actual cue he used for the tournament on Tuesday when he got to Valley Forge. Since he helped design it, it's not exactly like picking...

I was fortunate enough to be there this weekend, and I watched several of Schmidt's matches, including both that he played against Deuel. He was absolutely baffled by Deuel's break - which incidentally only Allison Fisher seemed to be able to replicate. He was making one or both of the two...

The crucial part to me seems to be making sure the elbow doesn't drop until after the cue makes contact with the cue ball. Short of a double hit, no amount of motion in your arm will affect the cue ball after the cue ball has left your tip. In general, I think most people will tell you that...

Right, well this thread took a predictable turn... Thanks to those who replied to my questions.

How so? If it's a points based system, and not something like a bell curve, what would the number of players have to do with handicaps? Is it just a law of large numbers kind of thing? And, also, how does the skill level in the area you play affect the handicaps. Not trying to be...

Chris' does a handicapped 9-ball tournament on Sundays. Although it's probably not the scene for average to weaker players. I know the Green Room out in Downers Grove used to run handicapped tournaments a couple nights a week. It seems like a lot of places that have handicapped tournaments...

I was under the impression that J&J had developed a proprietary tip. I've seen it called the Magic jump tip, but I'm not sure if that's the official name. Don't know if they sell those separately or not. You might be able to buy it directly from J&J or through a dealer on here. I know Erik...

Good stuff here! It seems to fit with my experiences as well, but I've never been able to put numbers on any of this. Thanks for posting this, Dave. And, thanks for putting the conclusions in language us non-physicists can understand!

Every shot is missable. I'm living proof. :frown: Agreed. Pros do it all the time as well. How many times have you seen pros get ball in hand from a scratch on the oponents' break and take that quick rack? Or, how many times have you seen the best in the world play the runout AND try to...

Good point. That would explain why there are so few who stick around. And, it makes sense that equipment will influence the skill levels, but I didn't realize that 9-ball handicaps were based on balls per inning. What would be a typical 8 or 9's balls per inning? I suppose the regional...

I play APA 9-ball here in Chicago. Say what you will about the APA, but I play it for the social aspect, and I have a blast doing it. I've noticed that there are very few 8s and 9s around here. In fact, I don't think there is currently an 8 or a 9 in all of the central and Northside Chicago...

The 7-4 matchup is tough. Usually by the time a player is a 4, they've got a decent enough break to luck in an 8 on the snap now and then, or run out the open table when a 7 dogs the game ball. And, if a 4 gets a game early, the 7 can actually lose the match on their break by making the 8 and...

Yep, that's my understanding as well. You should end up 5-0 for the night, because you had players ready to play. Maybe there was some confusion on the league operator's part. Hopefully you'll get the points you're owed in the end.