Tiger "no deflection" shaft

A call BS on Tiger.
I do not think it is possible under the laws of physics to have zero deflection, unless they are defining deflection in an unorthodox way.
 
Yeah I don't know enough about pool but I do know enough about physics to say I doubt that but I'm curious to see what the deal is
 
There is no zero deflection shaft, it's just a promoting quote to emphasize how much the deflection is reduced.
This shaft seems to have a comfortable taper, something between pro and european, looks interesting that's why I'm asking for opinions.
Thanks again,
Petros
 
Petros Andrikop said:
There is no zero deflection shaft, it's just a promoting quote to emphasize how much the deflection is reduced.
This shaft seems to have a comfortable taper, something between pro and european, looks interesting that's why I'm asking for opinions.
Thanks again,
Petros
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Their graphic misleadingly suggests zero deflection. Quoting the ad: "... and the only solid construction shaft that has NO deflection."

I would be willing to try one, but they are going too far with calling it no deflection.
 
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I uinderstand their LD carom shafts are selling pretty well, but the advertising is ridiculously incorrect.
 
Petros Andrikop said:
There is no zero deflection shaft, it's just a promoting quote to emphasize how much the deflection is reduced.
This shaft seems to have a comfortable taper, something between pro and european, looks interesting that's why I'm asking for opinions.
Thanks again,
Petros
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I like Tiger products...I have an original Tiger shaft (solid)...
..I love their Sniper tips.
But 'zero deflection' makes no sense...this is what Meucci tried in the 80's.

You can not have zero deflection at all ranges (SPEED AND DISTANCE)...
...and there are also cloth and tip considerations
 
no deflection - even if you have the worst stroke and bridging hand.
 
I think it is physically possible to have a shaft with no squirt but it wouldn't look like any normal shaft. One way would be to have a very light tip on tiny little bearings to let it roll to the side rather than deflect the shaft when applying side spin. It would need a little spring-loading or something to cancel the small amount of squirt due to the very small weight of the tip.

I think Meucci's flexible ferrule (which I've heard of but not seen) effectively does something like this.
 
I was just at Tony's (Tiger Products) manufacturing plant / warehouse yesterday as a matter of fact and was talking with Tony, Jay Halfert and Dennis Orcullo was there testing new break shafts.

The topic of their new Carom cues/shafts came up and Tony told us that Pedro Piedrabuena was in several weeks prior to test the new prototype of the shaft your referring to. Pedro took it with him. Now for the Champion (11 tournaments in a row) to take a prototype with him after only a short time of practice on a 9' Diamond table says enough for me about the viability of what they are advertizing.

Tony makes good stuff, that all the top PRO's are now switching to. I think that speaks for itself.
 
calcwby4u said:
...Tony makes good stuff, that all the top PRO's are now switching to. I think that speaks for itself.
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I call BS on all the pros switching over. Pros play with what they are paid or given. I'm sure Predator and OB have 10x the pro ranks that Tiger has. Nice product but everyone switching...I call not a chance.


Nick
 
The website ad picture shows the shaft bending away from the CB.

It may be more about bending away rather than a low mass tip...pj will be pizzed if true.:smile:

Maybe nanoparticles rather than small ball bearings...or silicone?
 
DoubleD said:
Even then there would be mass, where there is mass there is inertia. There would be some amount of squirt...measurable or not.
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It's zero deflection if you hit dead center. :D
More power to Tiger but their stemmed Saber-T ferrules is one of the hardest and heaviest ferrules out there. The design and density of Saber-T equate to more squirt to me.
 
DoubleD said:
Even then there would be mass, where there is mass there is inertia. There would be some amount of squirt...measurable or not.
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If I designed a shaft that had so little deflection that it could not be measured, I think I'd go ahead and market it as "no deflection" and call BS on any naysayers unless they could prove otherwise.
 
"No Defection"

Cool. I wonder where the batteries, sensors and all the other autonomous mechanisms are fitted inside such a small space.
 
DoubleD said:
Even then there would be mass, where there is mass there is inertia. There would be some amount of squirt...measurable or not.
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That's why I mentioned "a little spring loading". It is possible, but complex and expensive so far as I can figure, to build a shaft that has zero squirt. It could even be adjusted to have negative squirt. The real trick would be to make it work for all speeds, offsets and rotations of the cue.
 
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