After seeing Rasson in action at the Mosconi Cup, I wouldn't touch it .
I can only imagine the resale value if you had to unload it.
Rassom vs Diamond?
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After seeing Rasson in action at the Mosconi Cup, I wouldn't touch it .
I can only imagine the resale value if you had to unload it.
Ha ha ha. I like your answer. :grin-square::grin-square::grin-square:
It does in fact show 2 cushions on the spec sheet.I am not going to speculate or argue this topic anymore.
I will report back what I find from playing on the Victory 2+ and the Ox. We can talk about this until the cows come home, but, playing on the table is what will bring real feedback.
Trent from Toledo
You should “discuss” or “debate”, not argue.
I agree with you and no debate or arguing!
Where does that happen on here??:thumbup:
Thanks for the green rep: I love you 2 man!!!
Trent from Toledo
I had this same discussion with Glen in the mechanic forum a few years back, and I settled it by calling the company and talking to a rep. Even though the profiles are different and they use cloth backing and I had the spec sheet as well, the rubber is still the same for all the cushions they make. They are famous for the billiard cushions which are heated to perform as expected. It wasn’t like they said, let’s make a pool cushion and develop a different formula to make a softer rubber that would take on Artemis....they just simply started forming the 59 profile and renamed the company from Kleber to Klematch.
I’m not totally knocking the cushions, they played fine for a player of my skill level. But even I noticed the banks were absolutely stiff and very hard to manipulate. And in a cooler room temp, the ball lost a lot of speed and a simple over and back from side rail to side rail had to let the stroke out a bit.
The cushions play well, but should be heated for optimal playing conditions.
I appreciate your input. I will definitely report back, it wont be for a couple of months, but, I am excited to get to play on both tables.
Trent
Are Artemis pool cushions different formulation than the 3c ones?
They are stiffer than Super Speed as well.
They do play the same even after years of use though.
Makes you really wish Olhausen would wake up and make K55 cushions.
I really wish you knew more about this industry Joey. Olhausen has absolutely no reason to produce a K55 cushion because they WON'T work on rails that are an 1 1/2" thick, which is what Olhausen and many other home table manufacturers rail thicknesses.
Just like Olhausen, you are short-sighted .
There is also no reason for Olhausen to make really good commercial tables .
And where does it say that Olhausen has to produce only rubbers that fit their and home tables ?
K55 cushions is a huge market .
No, I'm sorry, it's not! Name the pool tables that come with factory K55 cushions!!! Almost ALL pool tables are produced with K66 profile cushions Joey!!!!
Must be why Artemis and Klemach stopped making K55 cushions.
It's a small market .
Really, when did they STOP making them?
Tell me something Joey, what's the difference between the K55 and K66 cushions since you think you know so damn much????
Oh look, the cobra wants to keep arguing.
Here ya go Glen.
https://www.classicbilliards.net/cushions-supplies/determine-rail-profile.html
I've had both Artemis installed on my table.
Had the real 66 removed.
You still do not get the gist of what I'm saying about Olhausen.
Olhausen spent all that money to get their cushions made in the US.
What's another freaking mold and make K55 cushions and take that market ?
Oh, it's a small market.
Meanwhile Artemis , Klemach and Brunswick are selling K55 for hundreds of dollars. It probably cost a 5th of that to make. If that.
No disrespect Joey, we are cool of course. There is this though:maybe because they don't make a table that accommodates a k-55 cushion ???:grin:
Trent from Toledo
Neither do Klemach and Artemis. :thumbup:
Actually, Olh was also shortsighted in designing their championship table.
That cushion and those corner pocket angles.
If they had Diamond's vision, they might be the commercial table of choice now.
Yeah, that and those pockets that stick up a mile. Hate 'hausens.