In my experience, the most difficult shot is the same for everyone:
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Does it have to be executed legally?
If so, maybe put the cue ball deep in the jaws of the pocket (as suggested), so it's all but falling in the hole. Then put the 9 ball right up next to it with just enough of a hair line gap that it is technically 'not frozen'.
Now he can't shoot through the ball, and if he elevates and doesn't double hit the shot he can't avoid the scratch. It would be essentially impossible to hit an elevated stop shot so precise it doesn't wiggle backwards, while having enough speed to send the object ball multiple rails (I'd aim it for a point on the opposite rail that would lead nowhere).
Of course if the rules allow him to push through the ball as long as he's 45 degrees then that wouldn't work. But if it's being played with rules preventing a double hit and requiring him to either shoot away or not push through the shot, I believe this would be the nuts.
I thinking of a jump cue for this shot
Shoot the shot described in the post above yours. Bet you can't make it in a 1000.
Hurts my head thinking about it. It would take a miracle masse draw on the level of Semih Sayginer imo.
Or maybe a 2 rail reverse bank into the opposite side pocket.
Good luck.
I think Pat Johnson already showed several ways it can be made using Virtual Pool. Or were you thinking of a different shot?I will try it. Just hitting the 9ball is half the shot. Slopping it in somewhere is the other half. It'll take a few tries to figure out how to hit it. After that, when you're hitting it every time, the odds of slopping it in are pretty good.
Wouldn't it be with cb deep in center of pocket and ob frozen to it, in a way cb couldn't exit location with a legal stroke?
Frozen ball you can stroke through. Bob Jewett suggested a similar shot but "one thousandth of an inch" apart. This one could not be hit legally in a way that would pocket the ball so I think we have a winner
Does it have to be executed legally?
If so, maybe put the cue ball deep in the jaws of the pocket (as suggested), so it's all but falling in the hole. Then put the 9 ball right up next to it with just enough of a hair line gap that it is technically 'not frozen'.
Now he can't shoot through the ball, and if he elevates and doesn't double hit the shot he can't avoid the scratch. It would be essentially impossible to hit an elevated stop shot so precise it doesn't wiggle backwards, while having enough speed to send the object ball multiple rails (I'd aim it for a point on the opposite rail that would lead nowhere).
Of course if the rules allow him to push through the ball as long as he's 45 degrees then that wouldn't work. But if it's being played with rules preventing a double hit and requiring him to either shoot away or not push through the shot, I believe this would be the nuts.
I think the most difficult setup would be with the OB frozen awkwardly to the point of the side pocket so it can't be made directly into any of the pockets on that long rail.
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I think Pat Johnson already showed several ways it can be made using Virtual Pool. Or were you thinking of a different shot?
I think the most difficult setup would be with the OB frozen awkwardly to the point of the side pocket so it can't be made directly into any of the pockets on that long rail.
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I don't get it? If they are frozen, you can just fire through the CB and pocket the OB in the opposite side pocket it is aimed for - aiming off of dead-on just enough to avoid scratching the CB in the side pocket directly behind the OB.This is easy
CB right at the edge of the side pocket
OB frozen to the CB facing the direction of the opposite side pocket.
I don't get it? If they are frozen, you can just fire through the CB and pocket the OB in the opposite side pocket it is aimed for - aiming off of dead-on just enough to avoid scratching the CB in the side pocket directly behind the OB.
I feel like with the right masse off the first rail you may be able to cut the ball down the long rail.
As Bob correctly pointed out, the 1 ball is purposely "frozen awkwardly to the point of the side pocket so it can't be made directly into any of the pockets on that long rail". That's why the closeup pic of the 1 ball (and why I said that).I feel like with the right masse off the first rail you may be able to cut the ball down the long rail.
If you mean to cut it into the bottom left corner, like sneakynito suggested, see Bob's and my explanations about that.What about striking that first rail above the side pocket, loading the cb up with top inside to go two rails into the 9?
If you mean to cut it into the bottom left corner, like sneakynito suggested, see Bob's and my explanations about that.
If you mean driving the 1 ball through the frozen point into the side pocket, that might be feasible with a REALLY HARD shot (probably too hard with inside) - and I don't know if that 2-rail path to the 1 ball is even possible without inside.
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