He already is basically gone from the game and irrelevant. And if he saw you in the stands rooting for him he'd probably call you an idiot
Earl banned by Pat?
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He already is basically gone from the game and irrelevant. And if he saw you in the stands rooting for him he'd probably call you an idiot
How in any shape has he signaled that he "wants to build a USA tour "? :thud:
He already is basically gone from the game and irrelevant. And if he saw you in the stands rooting for him he'd probably call you an idiot
lol, probably?
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He already is basically gone from the game and irrelevant. And if he saw you in the stands rooting for him he'd probably call you an idiot
I disagree. I've seen earl in person many, many times.
I've been within 30 feet of him while he played the best 9 ball ever played. I've also been just as close when he was at his ABSOLUTE worst.
If he thinks your in his corner he is almost always somewhat friendly. Still, even then he is an acquired taste as any intelligent person would know.
I may be wrong but, from your response I believe you are going by what you have "heard" or seen online....etc..
I just don't see anyone saying that unless of course your not a fan or just have no personal experience with him.
If your not a fan and he detects the fact, well, lol..... idiot may not be all he says.
Yes he was. I sat by the table to babysit Earl almost the entire match (during game three I came over and stayed the rest of the match)! I would not allow him to talk while Landon was shooting or be disrespectful to him in any way. Earl knew that I would dock him games or forfeit him in the match if he continued his bad behavior from the first couple of games.
It created a problem for me because I was now unable to oversee the other matches going on at the same time. Fortunately there were no problems at any other table and I had an assistant helping me. I wanted Landon to have an opportunity to play against Earl with no distractions, and that's just what he did, pounding Earl something like 15-3. Landon was 18 years old at the time! Earl had earlier made claims that no one could beat him on the 10' table, and then this young kid just wiped the floor with him.
In all my years officiating pool tournaments, I have literally had more problems dealing with Earl than the rest of the players combined! I have in the past taken games off the wire during one of his matches for using profanity, and even forfeited him when he continued to use profanity after being penalized and repeatedly warned. Earl was never happy to see me officiating an event because he knew I would not cut him any slack. I cannot say the same for some other refs who will go unnamed. It always made me sick to see what he was allowed to get away with at times. But not on my watch!
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I think Earl has always been 'pissed' and odd... it's his dope/booze, it gets HIM focused. I also think it is very self serving and disrespectful to competitors and audience alike.
But it can be amusing to watch and few here can honestly say that they haven't enjoyed a 'Earl' show at one time or another...but it's getting old. Like Earl.
Could be he is trying to get banned so he can step out without quitting ?
Props to Jay for putting Earl in check when he could help. This is where a Manager or confident, friend could possibly help him. He is skidding out. Could end ugly.
-Kat,
But it can be amusing to watch and few here can honestly say that they haven't enjoyed a 'Earl' show at one time or another...but it's getting old. Like Earl.
Could be he is trying to get banned so he can step out without quitting ?
Props to Jay for putting Earl in check when he could help. This is where a Manager or confident, friend could possibly help him. He is skidding out. Could end ugly.
-Kat,
You don't care what the other pro players have to say about how distracting Earl was and how he definitely interfered with other matches and tables other than his own ? These guys are pros not some back alley league players lol
How is that fair to the other guys, did you not see what Chohan said about how he can only imagine what would happen to him if he ever acted like Earl did, and disrespected his opponent like that for over hour.
That is a absolutely wrong and and just can not be justified for any reason.Even if Earl is sick and off his meds it has to be stopped.
I am prolly as big a fan of Earl as anybody but enough is enough guys give him some kind of warning and if he does not comply DQ him from that event.
After a few DQ's that has to be it he's gone no more BS
And on top of all that how do you think that looks to any potential sponsors and young Jr players watching Earl act like a child.
There is a video of the way Earl treated Jesus A and it's clear he totally screwed up Sky and Tony's match too on the table next to him ,plus the kid did absolutely nothing wrong but just flat out played Earl. I am not going even post the video that shows pool in in such a bad light like that i am sorry not going to do it .
Not long ago, a reliable source told me his meds weren't working anymore and they changed to another med.
Don't know if he is still on new med and trying to get the dose right or has done as he has in the past and stopped his meds altogether until he got really sideways of life in general.
Either way, someone in a position to help, well, should do so before something happens to him, not only as a beloved part of pool history but a good man in general.
Earl is in need of help and for his AND our sakes, I hope he receives it quickly.
The people that think Earl's game is irrelevant. Lol, let him get his meds right for a long period and you may find ole Earl still has a damn high gear and is still able to find it.
In the 3nd though, I understand what your saying. I agree that he, as he is now, can't continue.
That's one thing and a good assessment imo. But most of the people that bash him and say his game is irrelevant yadda yadda yadda.... makes me rethink listening to anything they have to say.
I wish I could personally do something, I would. There has to be somebody that is in a position to do something.
Anyways, I understand but, I also hope things work out for earl. I also wish people would stopping saying he or his game is irrelevant. Most all that say it will never be half the beast earl was. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty certain most all the people (not the pros) saying it can't play dead and are nothing more than keyboard toughguys.
Yeah but would you watch Jwow or the Kardashian sisters play pool?
For the record I would!! :grin:
I kinda feel bad for Earl. He is a great talent and a legend but he sure does lose control of himself sometimes. Kinda sad to see.
I remember watching a video of Efren and Rempe playing straight pool in Portland, Maine. You could hear Earl screaming on top of his lungs . Apparently there was a dispute to the ball he called.
Morro told us when he was making that huge comeback on Earl at the world 9-ball where he beat Earl to get to the finals, Earl was talking while he was shooting . And Earl went for the jugular in insulting Morro while Morro was shooting .
I understand Earl. I have hung out with him a little bit between matches and got to know another side of his personality. He's actually a very sweet Southern gentleman when you get to know him. Really very polite and treats women with respect in the traditional old-school Southern culture kind of way.
Like Keith, Earl has very strong feelings about professional pool tournaments in USA. It hurts to see the hometeam crowd rooting for a non-American on American soil. I guess it's like me going to the Washington Nationals game and being surrounded by a bunch of Yankee fans.:grin:
The Filipino invasion, the European invasion, and now the Asian invasion is hard to swallow for some American players from pool's golden years. Back then, the majority on the tournament player list was American players. But things change, of course, and thanks to the internet, people from around the world have connected in more ways than just pool. And the technology is continuing to evolve. This is good for pool but not good for some who want fans to root for the home team.
I used to go out with a strong one-pocket player named Geese. He was a road agent more so than a tournament player, and he made huge scores around the country because most people didn't know who he was. They had only heard the name "Geese" but had never seen him. This was before the days of internet and cell phones and Google.
Geese suffered from schizophrenia. He couldn't take losing, and when he did, everyone around him better watch out. I saw him throw an 8-ball across the room as hard as he could when he was losing in the Maryland State Tournament in Baltimore. Thank goodness the 8-ball didn't hit a person because it would have caused physical damage. He cursed out his mother and me both on the rail. Cigar Tom's wife came up to me and said if Tom ever treated her like that, she'd whip him with his pool cue.
Then there was the time that we were in Pittsburgh getting backed by a local stakehorse in a bar called Good and Plenty. Geese was losing against a local pro, and he came over to the stakehorse and cursed him out, threatening him. The stakehorse looked at me and said, "What's wrong with this guy? I'm backing him, and he's cussing me out. I'm on his team." It was embarrassing.
Then there was the time that Geese and I were on the road and getting staked and steered by a meat thief (long story). We were at a joint in Huntsville, Alabama, and I saw Geese losing big time on this bar table. I was green back then, real green, and I said, "What is wrong? I've never seen you play this poorly." Geese's opponent pulled up immediately after hearing me speak and unscrewed his cue, realizing Geese was laying down the lemon. Chaos ensued, and I ended up getting escorted to a bus station by a local sheriff. It was a 25-hour multiple-bus ride back to D.C. with only $5 in my pocket.
When Geese got his meds, he was a different person. He was joyful and fun to be around. Man, his laugh was infectious. Everybody loved hanging with Geese. Keith said one of the best times of his life was with Geese, laughing the whole day long. But when Geese didn't have his medicine, he was s different person, actually dangerous in some scenarios.
Geese self-medicated with pot. Now, personally, I don't see anything wrong with marijuana, but I don't smoke pot today, just to get it out there, even though I am Woodstock alumni. :wink:
But people like Geese with medical conditions sometimes self-medicate with pot, which alters their state of consciousness at will. If you have a medical condition and you do this, it can send your emotional scale up and down with huge spikes, much more so than someone without a medical condition. It causes outbursts and unusual behavior. Geese couldn't play pool without pot, but pot is what kept his condition on full tilt his entire life.
I had a lot of fun with Geese. We traveled the East Coast many times, and I used to think his behavior was B.S., that he was faking it, just acting like a spoiled brat, much like some accuse Earl of doing today. I was wrong. Geese was ill, and he dealt with it the best way he knew how. He was a good guy, truly, but he suffered from a medical condition.
Some say Earl should hang up his cue, that he's over the hill, his outbursts are too much, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Earl is a thoroughbred champion, like Alex Higgins, Willie Mosconi, Ronnie O'Sullivan, and Minnesota Fats. He will go down in the history books as an American pool phenom. Some folks cannot tolerate his behavior in competition when he goes off, and I get that. But I will always respect Earl Strickland. He's the greatest American pool player of my lifetime, and it's a damn shame that this stinking sport/game doesn't seem to bring the rewards that other sports/games do. But I digress. :sorry:
Like Keith, Earl has very strong feelings about professional pool tournaments in USA. It hurts to see the hometeam crowd rooting for a non-American on American soil. I guess it's like me going to the Washington Nationals game and being surrounded by a bunch of Yankee fans.:grin:
The Filipino invasion, the European invasion, and now the Asian invasion is hard to swallow for some American players from pool's golden years. Back then, the majority on the tournament player list was American players. But things change, of course, and thanks to the internet, people from around the world have connected in more ways than just pool. And the technology is continuing to evolve. This is good for pool but not good for some who want fans to root for the home team.
I used to go out with a strong one-pocket player named Geese. He was a road agent more so than a tournament player, and he made huge scores around the country because most people didn't know who he was. They had only heard the name "Geese" but had never seen him. This was before the days of internet and cell phones and Google.
Geese suffered from schizophrenia. He couldn't take losing, and when he did, everyone around him better watch out. I saw him throw an 8-ball across the room as hard as he could when he was losing in the Maryland State Tournament in Baltimore. Thank goodness the 8-ball didn't hit a person because it would have caused physical damage. He cursed out his mother and me both on the rail. Cigar Tom's wife came up to me and said if Tom ever treated her like that, she'd whip him with his pool cue.
Then there was the time that we were in Pittsburgh getting backed by a local stakehorse in a bar called Good and Plenty. Geese was losing against a local pro, and he came over to the stakehorse and cursed him out, threatening him. The stakehorse looked at me and said, "What's wrong with this guy? I'm backing him, and he's cussing me out. I'm on his team." It was embarrassing.
Then there was the time that Geese and I were on the road and getting staked and steered by a meat thief (long story). We were at a joint in Huntsville, Alabama, and I saw Geese losing big time on this bar table. I was green back then, real green, and I said, "What is wrong? I've never seen you play this poorly." Geese's opponent pulled up immediately after hearing me speak and unscrewed his cue, realizing Geese was laying down the lemon. Chaos ensued, and I ended up getting escorted to a bus station by a local sheriff. It was a 25-hour multiple-bus ride back to D.C. with only $5 in my pocket.
When Geese got his meds, he was a different person. He was joyful and fun to be around. Man, his laugh was infectious. Everybody loved hanging with Geese. Keith said one of the best times of his life was with Geese, laughing the whole day long. But when Geese didn't have his medicine, he was s different person, actually dangerous in some scenarios.
Geese self-medicated with pot. Now, personally, I don't see anything wrong with marijuana, but I don't smoke pot today, just to get it out there, even though I am Woodstock alumni. :wink:
But people like Geese with medical conditions sometimes self-medicate with pot, which alters their state of consciousness at will. If you have a medical condition and you do this, it can send your emotional scale up and down with huge spikes, much more so than someone without a medical condition. It causes outbursts and unusual behavior. Geese couldn't play pool without pot, but pot is what kept his condition on full tilt his entire life.
I had a lot of fun with Geese. We traveled the East Coast many times, and I used to think his behavior was B.S., that he was faking it, just acting like a spoiled brat, much like some accuse Earl of doing today. I was wrong. Geese was ill, and he dealt with it the best way he knew how. He was a good guy, truly, but he suffered from a medical condition.
Some say Earl should hang up his cue, that he's over the hill, his outbursts are too much, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. Earl is a thoroughbred champion, like Alex Higgins, Willie Mosconi, Ronnie O'Sullivan, and Minnesota Fats. He will go down in the history books as an American pool phenom. Some folks cannot tolerate his behavior in competition when he goes off, and I get that. But I will always respect Earl Strickland. He's the greatest American pool player of my lifetime, and it's a damn shame that this stinking sport/game doesn't seem to bring the rewards that other sports/games do. But I digress. :sorry:
That’s a wrap
The above post, pretty much says it all.
The above post, pretty much says it all.
But that’s what these old heads on here want. They think pool can go back to guys quietly potting balls in suits and this generation will still watch it lol Not going to happen. Every time earl plays at the expo every one moves toward his table to watch him play. Not only is he a great player but he never fails to entertain.
I love watching pool players play at a world class level. I would also like the popularity of the game to rise to a level that they can make some real money like other sports. You should look at the history of snooker and then you’ll understand what the game needs if you want it rise in popularity .
Wow, that is pure class right there.
