APA on the Corona Virus

My local league has suspended all play for two weeks.

My dude, the Chinese can't even make a pair of shoes that won't fall apart in a month, how the **** are they going to make some "supervirus" that's serious enough to mess up your day to day life like that? Made In China. That's it. That's all you need to remember to feel safe. The last time I felt threatened by the Chinese, his name was Bruce Lee.

We did air knuckles instead of handshakes. All good.

KidPresentable said:

My dude, the Chinese can't even make a pair of shoes that won't fall apart in a month, how the **** are they going to make some "supervirus" that's serious enough to mess up your day to day life like that? Made In China. That's it. That's all you need to remember to feel safe. The last time I felt threatened by the Chinese, his name was Bruce Lee.

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By eating all sort of animals sold live or freshly butchered in "wet markets". Eating bats, snakes, rodents ECT from all over the world. There is a reason we have a FOOD and drug administration.

Remember madcow disease? Or have you heard of muscle wasting disease in whitetail deer? Basically viruses mutate quickly and don't care about the hosts they infect. There have been many pandemics over the past couple thousand years...which is a blink in the history of life. This sort of thing is inevitable, made worse by how interconnected the world is and how concentrated the population is in areas.

Coronavirus is 15 times deadlier than flu. A person can have it for 6 to 12 days and not have symptoms. Every individual transmits it to 2.6 other people. So it can spread exponentially over a few weeks from "just few cases. Average time to death is 17.6 days, so it's even more naive to consider a death toll to day how many are infected. They know for every death, there is 90 to 110 infected...based of statistical analysis.

This entire thing is a huge shock. Takes rational thought and a period of days to come to grips with what is needed. If you choose to ignore it, it may be at you and your families own peril.

What is needed is mitigation. We can only reduce the number of cases, there is no treatment. Slowing or reducing the number of cases will allow a much better response by the medical community. If the system is overwhelmed.... The death rate of 2to 3%will increase dramatically as it has many countries throughout the world.

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They are leaving it up to local league operators whether to suspend play. I think the responsible decision would be to postpone play nationally for at least a month, then make a call from there. Most businesses running events are doing this or even canceling entire seasons.

APA you're really leaving such a major decision affecting your members and their families health up to local league operators? I was a bull on this until I found out how inadequate the testing is thanks to some AZ members. There has been a sea-change in the last week or two on the subject.

APA wake up, make the wise decision and suspend play.

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In my area, there were lots of people that felt the corona virus was nothing to worry about until the last couple days.

That stuff is nothing to joke about in the least. It's bad news for anyone that contracts it and deadly for some of us older folks or people that already have weak immune systems.

I'm glad you are seeing it for what it is sir.

I hope the APA and everyone else comes to their senses and cancels things until things are safe again.

IMO, if the APA doesn't do the right thing, well, people may see them in a different light after all of this is over.

If Walmart and many, many other corporations and even small businesses can take a hit and put the public's health before their bottom line, SURELY the APA can and will.

Stay safe sir.

Jeff

Leaving this to league operators is like the fox gaurding the henhouse.
A lot of people are going to lose a lot of money with this whole thing
I think players will opt to stay home when the number of cases and deaths rise
We all need to realize this disease is beyond our control

Here is their statement:
American Poolplayers Association
COVID-19 Update: APA League Play
Becky Rosner Becky Rosner
2 days ago

Virus Update web
Updated as of 5:30 pm on Friday, March 13

Over the past couple of days, we’ve continued to hear from our members in regards to local APA League play. All decisions regarding local APA League play will be made on a case by case basis by your local League Operator.

The situation regarding this virus varies significantly from state to state and city to city. Because of how drastically different this virus has impacted our league areas across North America, we have advised our League Operator network to heed the advice of local, state and federal officials, in coordination with their Host Locations, in making appropriate decisions on whether or not to host APA League play. In some communities, officials have restricted group gatherings to 250 or less. In most cases, APA League play does not come close to surpassing those restrictions and therefore APA League play is continuing. We are also encouraging our League Operator network to coordinate closely with their Host Locations to ensure enhanced safety and sanitation measures are being taken to try and minimize risk as much as possible.

If APA League is being played in your area, but you are uncomfortable with the risk to your health by playing, we encourage you to contact your local League Operator to discuss your concerns. For elderly individuals, and those with weakened immune systems, we would encourage you to talk with your teammates about whether you should continue to participate in League play at this time. As we communicated earlier this week, if you are playing League, we encourage you to wash your hands before and after your individual match, to stay home from League if you’re feeling ill and to discontinue the customary pre and post-match handshakes.

At this time, the APA Poolplayer Championships are still scheduled, but again, we are closely monitoring the situation, as well as the recommendations of local and state officials in Nevada, and we will act accordingly. We are also actively engaging in conversations with our hotel partners at the Westgate on potential options if we are unable to host the event late next month. Rest assured, we will not host this event if we believe the safety of our members and our staff is in jeopardy.

For further updates on APA’s response to the Coronavirus, bookmark this page or follow us on Facebook.

March 10, 2020


APA Coronavirus
Coronavirus: APA Encourages Members to Take Extra Precautions at League; APA Events Still Scheduled
As new cases of COVID-19, known as Coronavirus, continue to emerge around the globe, the American Poolplayers Association is encouraging its members to take extra steps on League night to maintain good health.

Recommendations include:
-Handwashing Before and After Your Individual Match
-Staying Home on League Night If You’re Ill
-Temporarily Discontinue Customary Handshakes Before and After the Match

“Most people are already aware of the importance of regular handwashing; we are simply encouraging them to do it before and after their match. In addition, we want to remind people that staying home if you’re sick, and potentially contagious, is part of being a good teammate. While good sportsmanship is a bedrock of the APA experience, asking APA Members to temporarily discontinue the practice of shaking hands before and/or after a match makes sense during this time of concern,” said APA President Greg Fletcher.

In lieu of pre and/or post-match handshakes, Fletcher is encouraging people to find non-contact methods of communicating good sportsmanship. “Maybe a friendly head nod,” he suggested.

Meanwhile, APA events will continue as scheduled. This includes the APA Poolplayer Championships. The Poolplayer Championships are one of APA’s two international championships held in Las Vegas each year. This year’s Poolplayer Championships are scheduled from April 29 to May 3, 2020.

“We continue to prepare to host all upcoming events, including the APA Poolplayer Championships. We know how important the Poolplayer Championships are to the APA Membership who have qualified to compete, and we are committed to holding the tournament as long as it is safe to do so. Our Members’ safety is paramount, and we continue to monitor the recommendations made by state and local officials in Nevada as well as officials with the CDC,” said Fletcher.

To that end, APA has been communicating regularly with its hotel partner, the Westgate Las Vegas Resort & Casino, who has already instituted heightened sanitation measures to ensure the safety of its guests.

SBC said:

Coronavirus is 15 times deadlier than flu.

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This is complete F.U.D., you really should research it yourself. It takes a whole whopping 15 minutes and a trip to your doctor to confirm your understanding.

Forgetting COVID-19 s a form of Influenza, Influenza has and will kill more people this year in first world countries (third world countries will, and as usual, die from just about anything).

It _WAS_ estimated that COVID-19 would kill 3 out of 100 people who've contracted it, but apparently that the number keeps falling. Influenza used to kill unholy amounts of people, but immunity was built up over years. For 97 people out of a 100, they many never know they have COVID-19 and just suspect it is the flu at worst, and ~50% of those people may feel as if they are only having an allergic reaction and never suspect any form of Influenza (as usual).

Again, 97/100 people will live, and we haven't even built up immunity to it yet! And people can go on an on about mutation because everything can mutate.

I don't like the APA, but at least someone there has been to their doctor, at least once.

This Coronavirus is unlike anything in our lifetime — and comparing it to the flu is dangerously inaccurate. This is far deadlier than the flu.

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When was the last time the Federal Government added an EMERGENCY $1.5 trillion to our markets, Cut interest rates 2+ times by Wednesday and Congress will approve another $800 Billion Monday in order to prop up our economy due to the Common Flu. Prolly need to WTFU and figure out a new survival skill... These waves are big... There a VERY HIGH PROBABILITY that the last market low was a 1/2 point to the next major low... We are only at the beginning of this ride.

SBC - not at all intended as a snipe - businesswise you possibly have something to lose regarding whether the league does close, yet are taking a more proactive response. That said, it does beg the question, do you have a decision tipping point when/if you will close for the duration, yourself? As a health professional, you probably have more insight than many.

(yes, i know i am personally banned, but never held that against you, i have always appreciated how you run the business and the promotion you do for the game)

smt

rhatten said:

This Coronavirus is unlike anything in our lifetime — and comparing it to the flu is dangerously inaccurate. This is far deadlier than the flu.

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When is the last time the Federal Government has added an EMERGENCY $1.5 trillion to our markets, Cut interest rates 2+ times by Wednesday and Congress will approve another $800 Billion Monday to prop up our economy due to the Common Flu. Prolly need to WTFU and figure out a new survival skill... These waves are big... There a VERY HIGH PROBABILITY that the last market low was a 1/2 point to the next major low... We are only at the beginning of this ride.

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I have never in my lifetime seen the level of panic associated with this disease. To say this is unlike anything in our lifetime is irresponsible and only adds to the hyperbole. I guess your graphic gives your true intentions away, just another political hack looking for a way to destroy our nation so your politician of choice can gain favor. Check the CDC on the H1N1 virus for some facts on a recent pandemic if that's something you care about. We didn't shut down the country, create mass hysteria and destroy the longest economic expansion in our history over it even though there were a lot of people affected, see here if you like:



The Covid-19 virus should be taken seriously as it has the ability to kill you, but generally only if you are in poor health to begin with, unlike H1N1 which killed many young, apparently healthy folks. Let's get a grip people and stop with the lunacy, take precautions to protect yourself but live your life.

Cron said:

This is complete F.U.D., you really should research it yourself. It takes a whole whopping 15 minutes and a trip to your doctor to confirm your understanding.

Forgetting COVID-19 s a form of Influenza, Influenza has and will kill more people this year in first world countries (third world countries will, and as usual, die from just about anything).

It _WAS_ estimated that COVID-19 would kill 3 out of 100 people who've contracted it, but apparently that the number keeps falling. Influenza used to kill unholy amounts of people, but immunity was built up over years. For 97 people out of a 100, they many never know they have COVID-19 and just suspect it is the flu at worst, and ~50% of those people may feel as if they are only having an allergic reaction and never suspect any form of Influenza (as usual).

Again, 97/100 people will live, and we haven't even built up immunity to it yet! And people can go on an on about mutation because everything can mutate.

I don't like the APA, but at least someone there has been to their doctor, at least once.

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You are ok with a 3% death rate?
Just wow.
Kinda killed whatever argument you had there.

Here in Europe it looks like we are in a state of war. Everything stopped, no public transportation, closing of restaurants, bars, schools... almost everything is closed. Except food stores and gas stations remains open. City centers are empty. State borders are closed.
In Italy is total chaos. Due to the numbers of patients the doctors has to decide who gets medical treatment and who doesnt (who dies). And europe (socialist? Lol) health system is way ahead of american.
Therefore do what you can while you still can and avoid public places...

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Ssonerai said:

SBC - not at all intended as a snipe - businesswise you possibly have something to lose regarding whether the league does close, yet are taking a more proactive response. That said, it does beg the question, do you have a decision tipping point when/if you will close for the duration, yourself? As a health professional, you probably have more insight than many.

(yes, i know i am personally banned, but never held that against you, i have always appreciated how you run the business and the promotion you do for the game)

smt

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Personally banned?!?!!?
Not sure who you are but we currently have 9 that are on that list.
I do not host any national league...that's another story.

We are doing all that can be done. Sanitizing common surfaces 3 times daily. Requiring hand washing when people arrive, before balls are given out. If you are sick, stay home. We have a max capacity of 150, so per county order we will not exceed half of that. My regulars are family, I'm letting them all know what is happening and advising people who ask, because I'm a healthcare provider. I made a detailed post on our business FB page.

If things get bad, to the point all non essential businesses are closed... Then we go into survival mode... treading water. Pay rent and wait it out. Don't see that coming, but it certainly could. I have a warchest of earnings built up.. Only thing I've done with pool hall earning is buy Diamonds, the rest is banked. I built with very low overhead in mind...though I was not expecting the apocalypse.

Summers suck anyway so losing March-May wouldn't be catastrophic. That said last night we got a lot of telephone inquiries if we were open and at most business was off 20%.Driving around it looked a bit like a ghost town. I saw pics on Times Square from yesterday at 2pm...shockingly empty. Yep is going to bailout businesses and individuals...because this can easily trigger a 10 year recession.

KidPresentable said:

My dude, the Chinese can't even make a pair of shoes that won't fall apart in a month, how the **** are they going to make some "supervirus" that's serious enough to mess up your day to day life like that? Made In China. That's it. That's all you need to remember to feel safe. The last time I felt threatened by the Chinese, his name was Bruce Lee.

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I'm not sure where to begin...

TATE said:

Thank you for letting us know. So sorry you are going through this. We are far from that situation...yet. There may be a chance for us to head this off somewhat if people make wise decisions.

I think there will be good that will come out of this eventually. We will be better prepared for an event like this in the future. We will take the threat of epidemic seriously. People will be better versed on what decisions to make and investments will be made to safeguard society. In modern times, there really has been nothing like this disease.

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I also believe that we (as a society) will learn something from this disaster. Maybe that is better to invest in medical care rather then to spend for army expenses... I doubt but I am sure that health care will emerge better then ever before.

As far as USA goes. Watch and observe what we did wrong to end up where we are now so you can learn from our fu.. ups. It seems that chineese beat this thing. But they were (literally) welding people house doors so that they remain inside and they didnt spread the disease. Good luck and dont be as ignorant as we were that this is something far far away and just and ordinary flu.

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Local nurses are still coming to the bars with the rest of us

TATE said:

APA wake up, make the wise decision and suspend play.

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Well let's see...they just had the Scotty Townshend Memorial tournament last weekend and I'm seeing no postponements from other leagues/tournaments on a local level.

Let's not put the blame solely on the APA.

Are the professional tournaments coming to a halt because of the coronavirus? Local/regional tournaments? BCAPL, TAP, VNEA, etc. league stopped? Have pool halls closed on a national basis?

Not being condescending here, just curious if all outside pool activities have come to a screeching halt. If not...then it's not only about the APA.

Maniac

I mean...if someone is going into a pool hall to play pool, then why not go into a pool hall and play league pool?

What's the difference???

Maniac (seeing more and more hysteria on a daily basis)