Mike Siegel wins 40K

Denis The Kid · Mar 15, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUJ_UW9X3pM

Older tournament for those that have not seen this before. He beats Parica, Garcia, and finally Varner.

Efren was asked who his toughest opponent was throughout his carreer. His reply, Mike Siegel.

Enjoy

Positively Ralf · Mar 15, 2019

Seen this before and it's always fun just watching these old events due to the presence of the crowds.

Denis The Kid · Mar 15, 2019

Positively Ralf said:
Seen this before and it's always fun just watching these old events due to the presence of the crowds.

Yes great attendance. This event also provided the first video replay!!

Positively Ralf · Mar 15, 2019

Denis The Kid said:
Yes great attendance. This event also provided the first video replay!!

Really? It's been a while since I've seen that video, but is it in those matches? Or was it during a previous match in the event?

Denis The Kid · Mar 15, 2019

Positively Ralf said:
Really? It's been a while since I've seen that video, but is it in those matches? Or was it during a previous match in the event?

Its in the notes in the bottom of video, it may have been before these matches.

pt109 · Mar 15, 2019

Sigel is nice to watch....I don’t even mind listening...lotta good info in that patter...

...but what I DO mind...a lot...:angry:...is that stinkin’ logo on the cloth,,,:angry::angry:

It might have been this one or an earlier one that Danny Diliberto refused to play in.......
...and I totally support him....if you don’t show respect for your game,,,who will?

Denis The Kid · Mar 15, 2019

Totally agree about the logo, very distracting. I think Resorts casino put in enough money/sponsorship in this event to get that logo put on the cloth.

jay helfert · Mar 15, 2019

Resorts added 50K to the purse and hosted the event. All of it arranged by Jack Johnson, who worked there. Pat Fleming and I co-directed it in 1986 or '87 I believe. We were having tourneys with 25 to 40K on top over thirty years ago! And they were all in this country. How times have changed.

BasementDweller · Mar 15, 2019

I always thought Sigel had such great fundamentals but they are pretty bad by today's standards. It's pretty crazy how much improvement there has been in technique is such a short amount of time. Probably a large part of why we are seeing so many new young stars.

metallicane · Mar 15, 2019

Loved watching Sigel play. Still do. Hate listening to his wife sob. Holy crap just STFU.

It was always nice to walk into my local pool room and seeing Mike practice.

o.g. (old guy) · Mar 15, 2019

Thanks for posting this Denis, haven't seen it in a long time. I like the pace that Siegel plays, I also like seeing players let their stroke out on that slow cloth, no babying a lot of shots like nowadays.

Denis The Kid · Mar 15, 2019

o.g. (old guy) said:
Thanks for posting this Denis, haven't seen it in a long time. I like the pace that Siegel plays, I also like seeing players let their stroke out on that slow cloth, no babying a lot of shots like nowadays.

You are welcome. Mike is great to watch, he always had a yes man in the crowd, and explained his logic to him.

I seen him live in Toronto Canada in 83 I believe. He and Rempe did an exhibition.

M.G. · Mar 15, 2019

jay helfert said:
We were having tourneys with 25 to 40K on top over thirty years ago! And they were all in this country. How times have changed.

Meanwhile, Snooker got out of its dump and has practically taken over the world.
It's nicer to look at and provides much more money, too.
The amount of tours has risen dramatically and each feels different.

People like the outfits, the attire and the gentleman attitude, and ontop the polished atmosphere.

PS: Sorry, hate the commenters. They talk too fast and too much, and on a strange detail level. Don't talk about the price money, that's just bad form, too.

Chip Roberson · Mar 15, 2019

Notice how they used to baby those balls into the holes back when. LOL , wasn't that some slow cloth back in the day. Thanks for sharing :thumbup:

Cornerman · Mar 15, 2019

Positively Ralf said:
Really? It's been a while since I've seen that video, but is it in those matches? Or was it during a previous match in the event?

It was this match, IIRC. Sigel move an object ball with his follow through. They havr to see if he fouled.

Freddie <~~~ CRS

mikemosconi · Mar 15, 2019

BasementDweller said:
I always thought Sigel had such great fundamentals but they are pretty bad by today's standards. It's pretty crazy how much improvement there has been in technique is such a short amount of time. Probably a large part of why we are seeing so many new young stars.

Really? You think there are MANY players today who are BETTER than Mike was in his PRIME at 14.1 or 9 ball - just what about Mike's fundamentals that are NOT GOOD today- just curious as to your reasoning, as I don't see it- please educate me. Thanks

garczar · Mar 15, 2019

BasementDweller said:
I always thought Sigel had such great fundamentals but they are pretty bad by today's standards. It's pretty crazy how much improvement there has been in technique is such a short amount of time. Probably a large part of why we are seeing so many new young stars.

HUH????? His stance was kinda unusual but his stroke was like a lazer. "Pretty bad" how???????

realkingcobra · Mar 15, 2019

jay helfert said:
Resorts added 50K to the purse and hosted the event. All of it arranged by Jack Johnson, who worked there. Pat Fleming and I co-directed it in 1986 or '87 I believe. We were having tourneys with 25 to 40K on top over thirty years ago! And they were all in this country. How times have changed.

AND, that was NOT Simonis cloth, It was Steven's, NO racking aid, just a wooden rack. NO break box, NO jump cues, Varner jumped a ball with his full length cue. NO break box, and NO minimum balls past the side pockets to be a legal break, and NO alternating breaks...my my how pool has changed...and they had over 350 players for that event as well, just goes to show you how BAD pool has gone down hill in the years that followed that event!!!

BasementDweller · Mar 15, 2019

Mike was no doubt an all-time great and I didn't say there are many players today that are better than him and certainly not more accomplished. I'm really growing tired of constantly having to repeat myself on here. I was just mentioning his actual technique and how watching him today and comparing him to how I remember him is different. I thought he was picture perfect but looking I see he was not. He would constantly swoop his cue all over the place on his stroke and he would even move his body quite a bit. By comparison most of today's top players more closely resemble the robotic approach of snooker players.

jay helfert · Mar 15, 2019

realkingcobra said:
AND, that was NOT Simonis cloth, It was Steven's, NO racking aid, just a wooden rack. NO break box, NO jump cues, Varner jumped a ball with his full length cue. NO break box, and NO minimum balls past the side pockets to be a legal break, and NO alternating breaks...my my how pool has changed...and they had over 350 players for that event as well, just goes to show you how BAD pool has gone down hill in the years that followed that event!!!

Wow Glen, you do know what you're talking about. We had 357 players at an entry of only $150. You are 100% right about all the rule changes we've had since then and the introduction of the fast cloth. And the ballroom was packed every day!

I think that was the tournament that Paul Newman came to see his friend Mike Sigel play. He was escorted in by security and they cleared the podium of everyone but Bill Staton and me. I was announcing the matches when this guy sits down right next to me. I was wondering who it was until I looked to my right into the brightest blue eyes I had ever seen. He only asked me one thing, "Which table is Mike Sigel playing on?" He made a little small talk, mostly with Billy and then left after maybe twenty minutes or so. They were shooting some final scenes for The Color of Money in the casino during this tournament. It must have been 1986.

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