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The critics have been silenced... - 05-30-2019, 07:08 PM

Well, well ....John has broken the record.

John has broken it by 100 balls.

It is on VIDEO. There were witnesses.

It is the highest run ever confirmed. It is confirmed in the most reliable, indisputable and conclusive way. Nothing about it is subjective, it is purely objective. No hearsay. No BS.

I had a feeling that once he did this, all there would be left are the desperate ramblings of people saying so-and-so ran 700+ in some basement...and other unsubstantiated, mythical runs. Legends of pool. Do I personally believe some of the greats pulled off a higher run in practice or what not? Sure. I think it is very likely. I don't think it is a sure thing. But either way, it matters not as there's no evidence.

Mosconi's run was witnessed by a lot of people who signed on it. That is legit. All these other runs are mythical. Don't care what so and so said, who knew so and so who saw it themselves.


Let's see...is there anything the haters, Mosconi worshipers and others can say to knock John?

Can they criticize the table? No, not compared to what Mosconi played on.


Some say it's not the same as John had many attempts. Well, that's BS too - because Mosconi routinely made exhibitions and routinely would continue runs to please the crowd. So he had many attempts too. Now..he may not have been completely committed to and determined to run as many as he could possibly run on each of his exhibitions, but nonetheless, this claim that it was his only high run attempt is bogus.

Oh, there's the claim that John wasn't playing an opponent. Is that even relevant when you're running 600+ balls? Deduct a full rack of 14 points to compensate for a starting position, he still broke the record. A match typically is played to 150. Again, irrelevant.


Ha, just waiting for someone to claim John was using performance enhancing drugs. LOL.


Just give it up. Instead of trying to diminish John, recognize it as the greatest run ever. Mosconi's run is still great and always will be. Accomplished so long ago. Stood for so long as seemingly unbreakable.


It doesn't mean John is the greatest 14.1 player. Mosconi was better.


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05-31-2019, 03:12 AM

Well said- let's all just move forward and acknowledge this great achievement for what it is- nobody should take anything away from John for this proven accomplishment! Hopefully it will be used to PROMOTE the game of pocket billiards in general, and not just to profit or glorify one person. The sport needs a shot in the arm to get it going again esp. here in the U.S.
  
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05-31-2019, 03:23 AM

I’ve honestly seen the same people who have said the Revo is bs and of no help saying he had an unfair advantage playing wit it lol ah the internet.


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05-31-2019, 04:07 AM

Ahhh

Now it is official and we can put it in the books.

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05-31-2019, 05:26 AM

I don't recall anyone on the entire forum suggesting that this isn't the world record. John's got the record, plain and simple.
  
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05-31-2019, 05:31 AM

I guess we need to get "Mr. 625" matched-up with "Five-time Hohmann" for a multi-day 1000pt match. That would be epic.
  
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05-31-2019, 05:42 AM

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Well, well ....John has broken the record.

John has broken it by 100 balls.

It is on VIDEO. There were witnesses.

It is the highest run ever confirmed. It is confirmed in the most reliable, indisputable and conclusive way. Nothing about it is subjective, it is purely objective. No hearsay. No BS.

I had a feeling that once he did this, all there would be left are the desperate ramblings of people saying so-and-so ran 700+ in some basement...and other unsubstantiated, mythical runs. Legends of pool. Do I personally believe some of the greats pulled off a higher run in practice or what not? Sure. I think it is very likely. I don't think it is a sure thing. But either way, it matters not as there's no evidence.

Mosconi's run was witnessed by a lot of people who signed on it. That is legit. All these other runs are mythical. Don't care what so and so said, who knew so and so who saw it themselves.


Let's see...is there anything the haters, Mosconi worshipers and others can say to knock John?

Can they criticize the table? No, not compared to what Mosconi played on.


Some say it's not the same as John had many attempts. Well, that's BS too - because Mosconi routinely made exhibitions and routinely would continue runs to please the crowd. So he had many attempts too. Now..he may not have been completely committed to and determined to run as many as he could possibly run on each of his exhibitions, but nonetheless, this claim that it was his only high run attempt is bogus.

Oh, there's the claim that John wasn't playing an opponent. Is that even relevant when you're running 600+ balls? Deduct a full rack of 14 points to compensate for a starting position, he still broke the record. A match typically is played to 150. Again, irrelevant.


Ha, just waiting for someone to claim John was using performance enhancing drugs. LOL.


Just give it up. Instead of trying to diminish John, recognize it as the greatest run ever. Mosconi's run is still great and always will be. Accomplished so long ago. Stood for so long as seemingly unbreakable.


It doesn't mean John is the greatest 14.1 player. Mosconi was better.

That would be incorrect.

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05-31-2019, 05:43 AM

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I guess we need to get "Mr. 625" matched-up with "Five-time Hohmann" for a multi-day 1000pt match. That would be epic.
I know who'd be the winner if that match takes place. The fans!
  
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05-31-2019, 05:54 AM

nice post ,
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Well now that you mention it ... - 05-31-2019, 05:58 AM

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Well, well ....John has broken the record.

John has broken it by 100 balls.

It is on VIDEO. There were witnesses.

It is the highest run ever confirmed. It is confirmed in the most reliable, indisputable and conclusive way. Nothing about it is subjective, it is purely objective. No hearsay. No BS.

I had a feeling that once he did this, all there would be left are the desperate ramblings of people saying so-and-so ran 700+ in some basement...and other unsubstantiated, mythical runs. Legends of pool. Do I personally believe some of the greats pulled off a higher run in practice or what not? Sure. I think it is very likely. I don't think it is a sure thing. But either way, it matters not as there's no evidence.

Mosconi's run was witnessed by a lot of people who signed on it. That is legit. All these other runs are mythical. Don't care what so and so said, who knew so and so who saw it themselves.


Let's see...is there anything the haters, Mosconi worshipers and others can say to knock John?

Can they criticize the table? No, not compared to what Mosconi played on.


Some say it's not the same as John had many attempts. Well, that's BS too - because Mosconi routinely made exhibitions and routinely would continue runs to please the crowd. So he had many attempts too. Now..he may not have been completely committed to and determined to run as many as he could possibly run on each of his exhibitions, but nonetheless, this claim that it was his only high run attempt is bogus.

Oh, there's the claim that John wasn't playing an opponent. Is that even relevant when you're running 600+ balls? Deduct a full rack of 14 points to compensate for a starting position, he still broke the record. A match typically is played to 150. Again, irrelevant.


Ha, just waiting for someone to claim John was using performance enhancing drugs. LOL.


Just give it up. Instead of trying to diminish John, recognize it as the greatest run ever. Mosconi's run is still great and always will be. Accomplished so long ago. Stood for so long as seemingly unbreakable.


It doesn't mean John is the greatest 14.1 player. Mosconi was better.


I have been carefully avoiding my suspicion. Now that you mention it, john was shaking like a bird dog crapping peach pits when he got above 450 the first time. I'm not curious enough to watch the video but was john nice and mellow this time? Poker players take a certain drug like it's aspirin! Video is wonderful technology, so is drug testing. If I set a world record and was clean when I did it I would rush to a lab to bury any question of PED's. Modern technology just like the video.

Having had personal dealings with john a few times I know he has the balls of a bull gerbil if that isn't insulting gerbils. All of a sudden turning in a hero performance far beyond what he was ever able to do before does look very unlikely.

Now, don't you wish you had let sleeping dogs lie?

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05-31-2019, 06:14 AM

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I have been carefully avoiding my suspicion. Now that you mention it, john was shaking like a bird dog crapping peach pits when he got above 450 the first time. I'm not curious enough to watch the video but was john nice and mellow this time? Poker players take a certain drug like it's aspirin! Video is wonderful technology, so is drug testing. If I set a world record and was clean when I did it I would rush to a lab to bury any question of PED's. Modern technology just like the video.

Having had personal dealings with john a few times I know he has the balls of a bull gerbil if that isn't insulting gerbils. All of a sudden turning in a hero performance far beyond what he was ever able to do before does look very unlikely.

Now, don't you wish you had let sleeping dogs lie?

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Thumbs down 05-31-2019, 06:20 AM

You guys beat this in the same way a boy going thru puberty beats his pud..over and over....
  
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05-31-2019, 06:34 AM

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If you knew John personally you would know how far off base you are.
I agree. Pretty lame imo. Cheap shots.
  
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05-31-2019, 06:45 AM

Lol that’s pretty funny. He Xanax’d his way to the record? Or was it Power Thirst that he used? Maybe the “Mananna” flavor, or “Fizz*****” or even...”GUN!!!”

Or is smoking the herb to blame? Most pool players whose names start with J that I personally know and am, well...they definitely get into the trance best under the influence of dubage.
  
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05-31-2019, 06:47 AM

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Well, well ....John has broken the record.

John has broken it by 100 balls.

It is on VIDEO. There were witnesses.

It is the highest run ever confirmed. It is confirmed in the most reliable, indisputable and conclusive way. Nothing about it is subjective, it is purely objective. No hearsay. No BS.

I had a feeling that once he did this, all there would be left are the desperate ramblings of people saying so-and-so ran 700+ in some basement...and other unsubstantiated, mythical runs. Legends of pool. Do I personally believe some of the greats pulled off a higher run in practice or what not? Sure. I think it is very likely. I don't think it is a sure thing. But either way, it matters not as there's no evidence.

Mosconi's run was witnessed by a lot of people who signed on it. That is legit. All these other runs are mythical. Don't care what so and so said, who knew so and so who saw it themselves.


Let's see...is there anything the haters, Mosconi worshipers and others can say to knock John?

Can they criticize the table? No, not compared to what Mosconi played on.


Some say it's not the same as John had many attempts. Well, that's BS too - because Mosconi routinely made exhibitions and routinely would continue runs to please the crowd. So he had many attempts too. Now..he may not have been completely committed to and determined to run as many as he could possibly run on each of his exhibitions, but nonetheless, this claim that it was his only high run attempt is bogus.

Oh, there's the claim that John wasn't playing an opponent. Is that even relevant when you're running 600+ balls? Deduct a full rack of 14 points to compensate for a starting position, he still broke the record. A match typically is played to 150. Again, irrelevant.


Ha, just waiting for someone to claim John was using performance enhancing drugs. LOL.


Just give it up. Instead of trying to diminish John, recognize it as the greatest run ever. Mosconi's run is still great and always will be. Accomplished so long ago. Stood for so long as seemingly unbreakable.


It doesn't mean John is the greatest 14.1 player. Mosconi was better.
Maybe stop talking about “haters” and grow up a little. Nobody disrespects the achievement.
  
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