That's why I led with the question of whether you were suggesting it, or making a hypothetical question.
Probably poor comprehension ability on my part, I suppose
, still, I think I was pretty clear, tooAs more bashing against deanoc continues...we now sympathize for him
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That's why I led with the question of whether you were suggesting it, or making a hypothetical question.
Probably poor comprehension ability on my part, I suppose
, still, I think I was pretty clear, too
Oh, stop it already. You came in this thread with having no idea what happened, and started defending the accused. And now, you are actually hold yourself out as "semi law enforcement". Dude, you know folks that know you, still read stuff in the MF, right??
The only apology folks are waiting from is Dean. And he's too old and stubborn to do that. Hey, kind of sounds like you
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JC
Coos Cues
Did Dean go somewhere?
animatedvmaker
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He really tried to charge extra for pictures? I always thought that he just did not know how to take pics and post them online.
What is semi law enforcement?
I only ask because I was in full time law enforcement for 32 years, 18 of which were in homicide. I've done thousands of interviews/interrogations and a telltale sign that someone may be guilty is when they are presented with with an allegation and they refuse to attempt to clear their name.
You may be correct in the sense that there is more to this story however, there is also enough probably cause to have a felony warrant issued for his arrest at which point he could choose to remain silent or clear his name.
As far as Deano goes.....if he knowingly sent just one Schmelke through the mail and represented as a JP, then that is a Federal crime under mail fraud.
The crazy thing is In a mail fraud prosecution, the government need not prove that the scheme actually injured victims, or was even carried out completely. It’s not even necessary that the victim of the scheme had knowledge of its existence.
Oh, stop it already. You came in this thread with having no idea what happened, and started defending the accused. And now, you are actually hold yourself out as "semi law enforcement". Dude, you know folks that know you, still read stuff in the MF, right??
The only apology folks are waiting from is Dean. And it's too old and stubborn to do that. Hey, kind of sounds like you
Weed and dandelion enforcement division....
Jokes aside, guess we learn something new about each other every day.
So Robin, what is semi-law enforcement exactly if you don't mind me asking?
animatedvmaker
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You can defend Dean all you want, but be honest, if I were to sell you a custom Schmelke, and say that it is basically a Libra or some other well known reputable custom , and you paid $500 to $600 for it, I imagine you would be really upset.
It really should not matter who Dean is in the pool world , what he did was wrong.
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It's interesting, both you are cornerman seem to have a vastly different opinion on the issue, I have no idea who is right, just that for this industry it seems like a scummy thing to do.
Interesting hearing your perspective, thanks for sharing and your service on the force.
Privacy.
Just like people who immediately take down pictures and price after a cue is sold.
If he thought for a second he could get $5-600 for a cue made by Schmelke he would have advertised them as such. He knew they needed a story like all his other sales so he made up one. I don't care if none of the buyers will admit they got screwed, it was fraud and shouldn't be ignored.
I worked in the prison system for 30yrs. So I guess you could say I'm glad I'm outta prison!. Last half of it in management, specifically food
service management. There was inmate investigations and tons of staff investigations. Last 4 and half years I think I was in the hot seat the whole time.
Never guilty but thoroughly investigated. They wanted my job for someones buddy then after I finally retired they wished they had me back. So go figure that one.
service management. There was inmate investigations and tons of staff investigations. Last 4 and half years I think I was in the hot seat the whole time.
Never guilty but thoroughly investigated. They wanted my job for someones buddy then after I finally retired they wished they had me back. So go figure that one.
Let's say he commissioned JP to make these cues and JP turns around and outsource them without him knowing. That could be a possibility.
Also, he commissions JP to make the cue but JP has employees to make it for him or had another company make it for him.
When I order a Jacoby cue....I don't expect it to be made from Dave since he has employees.
A lot of people think the guy actually makes it but the guy is the brand. With any brand there are employees and outsourcing.
The cues Dean sold never had the Schmelke branding.
One question I’d love to have answered. Where did the cues ship from? Drop ship from Schmelke? Jack shipped to customers? Dean?
Dean shipped them out I believe, as he sent someone a Tasc in place of a Jackpot, don't think he ever got it back, maybe a little cosmic karma at play.
Then Dean checked the cues, I assume. I handle cues from another manufacturer. You can bet that I look cues over before shipping. When I receive, I check for flaws and defects, and if any, report and/or fix. I can tell you that I would have zero issue spotting a Schmelke vs another maker.
C'mon JC. Not only did he flat oout insinuate that Jack was making the cues, and that others would be letting him use equipment and even some other of Jacks folks might be involved in the cues, he actually called them Jack Pot cues. I mean, even the name is a fraud.
Dude, nobody likes to be taken advantage of. I know, if someone pulled this move on your, you would NOT be too pleased. Tell me I'm wrong
From one Boomer to another, lolHey, I got some grade A, mint condition, Balabushka's for sale. Send me $1000 and I'll send you a great cue. you in
More drivel. How in the actual hell does food service constitute "semi law enforcement".
Oh wait, the same way Dean represents Libra cues. Got it.
Dude, just stop already. He basically advertised folks would be getting a custom cue from a retired and well liked cue maker with a name brand, and then do the "bait and switch" and sent them a production cue that anyone and his brother could order right now for half the price. That's garbage, plain and simple.
I have to be honest, I inquired about one of the cues and thought, if I don't like it I could just sell it. I would have been pissed and he would have been returning every last dollar of my $600.
You're speculating and what you are speculating can happen from JP got a bunch of unbranded cues and shipped it to Dean and Dean proceeds to send them out unknowingly.