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03-08-2012, 11:54 PM

Why do people pay $2 for a cube of pre flag when you can just swap a cube of post flag at any pool hall for free and masters themselves have said on plenty of occasions that the only difference is that they decided to put a flag on the wrapper after 9/11.

I guess one could argue that $2 stupid is less than $25 stupid.
  
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03-09-2012, 12:30 AM

There is a huge difference.
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Somehow awesome seems a little overcooked - 03-09-2012, 01:44 AM

I have the older series, what is that 098? Yes it goes on well and one can shoot a number of times before re-chalking. If that is performance so be it. On the other hand Masters goes on well and you can shoot a number of times as well with more risk of a miscue.

I bought a piece and used it in a league last summer. It fell underneath the front car seat half way through the league. About two weeks ago I fished it out and its back in my case. I never missed it and I don't use it. The only thing it did better IMO is stay on the tip longer. It won't last near as long if you knurl the tip weekly as I do. That rough texture eats up chalk. As far as playing performance, spin etc I don't think its any better or worst. So that being the case I'll not invest in the newer version. For those that think its better and it gives you confidence, good for you. I rarely miscue but if I do it was a very poor stroke. Chalk isn't the cure, its the Indian, not the arrow.

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03-09-2012, 02:31 AM

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I have the older series, what is that 098? Yes it goes on well and one can shoot a number of times before re-chalking. If that is performance so be it. On the other hand Masters goes on well and you can shoot a number of times as well with more risk of a miscue.

I bought a piece and used it in a league last summer. It fell underneath the front car seat half way through the league. About two weeks ago I fished it out and its back in my case. I never missed it and I don't use it. The only thing it did better IMO is stay on the tip longer. It won't last near as long if you knurl the tip weekly as I do. That rough texture eats up chalk. As far as playing performance, spin etc I don't think its any better or worst. So that being the case I'll not invest in the newer version. For those that think its better and it gives you confidence, good for you. I rarely miscue but if I do it was a very poor stroke. Chalk isn't the cure, its the Indian, not the arrow.

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That's debatable. There could very well be times that you miscue where your tip was a fraction of a millimeter from being max draw and an extra amount of friction from better chalk WOULD have made all the difference from getting the money and the glory.

Sometimes it's 99% Indian and 1% arrow and 100% is required.
  
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03-09-2012, 02:43 AM

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but i'd really like to hear what kind of foreskin JB compares the new kamui chalk to!!!

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Lmfao! That's the funniest video I've ever seen when JB made that video demonstrating the extreme english you can apply to the cue ball with Kamui chalk. He chalks up with the Kamui and the first time he strikes the cue ball, he miscues, lol. Then he miscues 2-3 more times in the same video. You can't buy this comedy. I thick he made the video for a bet he had with someone on here about using a piece of drywall against his Kamui chalk. I just laughed again thinking about that video.


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Lmfao! That's the funniest video I've ever seen when JB made that video demonstrating the extreme english you can apply to the cue ball with Kamui chalk. He chalks up with the Kamui and the first time he strikes the cue ball, he miscues, lol. Then he miscues 2-3 more times in the same video. You can't buy this comedy. I thick he made the video for a bet he had with someone on here about using a piece of drywall against his Kamui chalk. I just laughed again thinking about that video.
Seriously homo-erotic undertones as well - "it's like the foreskin of an extra virgin" - WTF is THAT all about?
  
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03-09-2012, 05:30 AM

Virgin foreskin. Damn you. I wish I hadn't have read that before going to work.


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03-09-2012, 06:25 AM

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I have the older series, what is that 098? Yes it goes on well and one can shoot a number of times before re-chalking. If that is performance so be it. On the other hand Masters goes on well and you can shoot a number of times as well with more risk of a miscue.

I bought a piece and used it in a league last summer. It fell underneath the front car seat half way through the league. About two weeks ago I fished it out and its back in my case. I never missed it and I don't use it. The only thing it did better IMO is stay on the tip longer. It won't last near as long if you knurl the tip weekly as I do. That rough texture eats up chalk. As far as playing performance, spin etc I don't think its any better or worst. So that being the case I'll not invest in the newer version. For those that think its better and it gives you confidence, good for you. I rarely miscue but if I do it was a very poor stroke. Chalk isn't the cure, its the Indian, not the arrow.

Rod
And so, that's why you need the Gator Grip from Kamui. Seriously though, the metal mesh on the Gator Grip is much finer than most tip tools and does not eat up the tip as rapidly as most tip tools. It makes smaller divots into the leather and I think because they are smaller and more numerous, it allows the chalk to spread more evenly.

I agree that no chalk is the cure, just like no one aiming system is the cure.

On the other hand, it's always nice to try out different equipment and tools to see how they affect your game and you.


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03-09-2012, 07:46 AM

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Kamui has just released a new chalk compound, version 1.21, which is a follow-on product to the previous release, the introductory version 0.98, and the one I tested about a year ago.

Disclaimer: I am not getting anything for my review except the one piece of chalk they sent me in the mail.

Review: The best chalk just got better. Worth the price if you value your game. It feels right going on, and the hit is better, with or without extreme english. It all comes down to being able to deliver a confident stroke when you need it. That's priceless. You could use cheaper chalk, but why?
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03-09-2012, 11:19 AM

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Why do people pay $2 for a cube of pre flag when you can just swap a cube of post flag at any pool hall for free and masters themselves have said on plenty of occasions that the only difference is that they decided to put a flag on the wrapper after 9/11.

I guess one could argue that $2 stupid is less than $25 stupid.
Pre-flag is different, but why would you steal from a pool hall?


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And so, that's why you need the Gator Grip from Kamui. Seriously though, the metal mesh on the Gator Grip is much finer than most tip tools and does not eat up the tip as rapidly as most tip tools. It makes smaller divots into the leather and I think because they are smaller and more numerous, it allows the chalk to spread more evenly.

I agree that no chalk is the cure, just like no one aiming system is the cure.

On the other hand, it's always nice to try out different equipment and tools to see how they affect your game and you.
I know Joey but there is a very fine file out there that is close the same. Its about 1/3 the price as well. I have enough tools, don't need a top box when I play.


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03-09-2012, 11:50 AM

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That's debatable. There could very well be times that you miscue where your tip was a fraction of a millimeter from being max draw and an extra amount of friction from better chalk WOULD have made all the difference from getting the money and the glory.

Sometimes it's 99% Indian and 1% arrow and 100% is required.
Everything is debatable if one is that type. I'll pass on the glory, I already get the cheese - that .1% means little to me. However if one miscues a lot it could be a good investment.


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03-09-2012, 11:57 AM

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Why do people pay $2 for a cube of pre flag when you can just swap a cube of post flag at any pool hall for free and masters themselves have said on plenty of occasions that the only difference is that they decided to put a flag on the wrapper after 9/11.

I guess one could argue that $2 stupid is less than $25 stupid.
the better question is why do people have to steal chalk from the pool room. It cost you .25 buy a cube, SHOT STEALING CHALK
A THIEF IS A THIEF, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU ARE STEALING

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Seriously homo-erotic undertones as well - "it's like the foreskin of an extra virgin" - WTF is THAT all about?
...probably stopped himself before he said too much
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the better question is why do people have to steal chalk from the pool room. It cost you .25 buy a cube, SHOT STEALING CHALK
A THIEF IS A THIEF, DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU ARE STEALING
I don't know, they give me a tray of balls and 4-5 cubes of chalk which i use on the tip of my cue. I'm sorry if that's wrong.
  
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