Welcome to "Ignore" moron.No.....just commenting on his troubles getting his city to allow him to operate a Pool Hall.
BTW....you burnt up just as much bandwidth by quoting what I wrote instead of just replying!
Ok, got some info that I feel the need to share. So Westchester county rents are just too high and the districts, towns and villages gave me a hard time. Enter the Bronx.
I was with a friend the other day in a very crappy section of the Bronx. 4 train, 145th or so to be exact. There used to be a hall there called Remy's Bar and Billiards. It was more of a night club than an actual pool hall. A real estate company is advertising the space which still has all 32 tables, full kitchen and full bar. I guess the owner of the business got kicked out by the landlord because the owner lost his liquor license and could not keep up with the rent. Anyways, I call up. The place is about 13,000 SQ. The neighborhood is seedy, crappy, shitty whatever word you want to say. The locals aren't exactly the best it has to offer but they are there so security is going to be a big thing. Easy access to the train which means many of the big tri state tours/leagues can have another home to come play at.
Landlord wants $16,000 a month. Is that even reasonable in this current situation we are in? I'd figure I would at least get rid of 12-15 tables to make space for some vending machines, pinball machines and dart machines. Make enough space for at least 4 7-footers for APA play and just go the plain jane fries and wings food and only a beer/wine license. I literally would be ditching the last business plan, which was a night club and making this into a full pool hall/game center. But again, is $16,000 too much considering the neighborhood and current virus situation we are in?
Let me know what you guys think.
Ok, got some info that I feel the need to share. So Westchester county rents are just too high and the districts, towns and villages gave me a hard time. Enter the Bronx.
I was with a friend the other day in a very crappy section of the Bronx. 4 train, 145th or so to be exact. There used to be a hall there called Remy's Bar and Billiards. It was more of a night club than an actual pool hall. A real estate company is advertising the space which still has all 32 tables, full kitchen and full bar. I guess the owner of the business got kicked out by the landlord because the owner lost his liquor license and could not keep up with the rent. Anyways, I call up. The place is about 13,000 SQ. The neighborhood is seedy, crappy, shitty whatever word you want to say. The locals aren't exactly the best it has to offer but they are there so security is going to be a big thing. Easy access to the train which means many of the big tri state tours/leagues can have another home to come play at.
Landlord wants $16,000 a month. Is that even reasonable in this current situation we are in? I'd figure I would at least get rid of 12-15 tables to make space for some vending machines, pinball machines and dart machines. Make enough space for at least 4 7-footers for APA play and just go the plain jane fries and wings food and only a beer/wine license. I literally would be ditching the last business plan, which was a night club and making this into a full pool hall/game center. But again, is $16,000 too much considering the neighborhood and current virus situation we are in?
Let me know what you guys think.
I would be positive I had a liquor license before I did anything else. If it's in a small town , you better have the ok from city council on young people hours .There is only one major hall in my area that has been opened for many years. The current owners basically do not care about the place. They live off of the high school hookah smoking crowd and the fact that sundays through Thursdays, it's $10 to play all day. Personally, I think they launder money there, but that's just me.
Anyway, I have a lead on a building that an owner has. It used to be a furniture shop but it's clean now and they have up to 7,000sq available. I also have a lead on someone who is selling 5 Gold Crown 4 tables plus gold crown lights, tables, chairs, balls, sticks and computer management system all for $15k. basically the person has all this in a dry, clean warehouse storage because his partner pulled out on their deal of opening up a place. And truth be told, I would probably sell of the lights because I would like to go all LEDs.
I also would be getting a beer and wine license. I feel like hard liquor is no use for the first year or so. there are a few places in the area for food which is fine, but I can have my mother in law cook meals like rice, beans, chicken, beef and other stuff at home and bring it over for a buffet type area.
With 7,000sq, I figured the 5 Gold Crown tables, coupled with maybe 5 more 9 footers, four bar tables and a few ping pong tables should be enough to draw in a crowd. I'll probably also have vending machines for chips and sodas. Some televisions aswell. I would also love a few arcade and pinball machines as those were some of the hobbies I put into a lot of time growing up. If I take the whole 7,000sq, I have considered maybe having a private party area.
that's my plan for now. any extra ideas I should be looking into? I really want as much info as possible before going forward with this.
Any ideas will be thought about and considered.
Thanks for reading.