Which Pro Has The Most Powerful Stroke?

LastTwo

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I think that all the pro players have powerful strokes, but there are some who excel above the rest. I heard Larry Nevel is one of the best when it comes to this. Rodney Morris has a pretty powerful stroke too. Anyone else?
 

frankncali

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LastTwo said:
I think that all the pro players have powerful strokes, but there are some who excel above the rest. I heard Larry Nevel is one of the best when it comes to this. Rodney Morris has a pretty powerful stroke too. Anyone else?


Nevel is up there. Mike Massey IMO has the most powerful stroke.

Nevel and Massey might be even or damn close.
 

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frankncali said:
Nevel is up there. Mike Massey IMO has the most powerful stroke.

Nevel and Massey might be even or damn close.
So what would be a good test? I think the break shot isn't any good because it's hard to judge control, and you don't want to spin the ball much. Table length draw for maximum distance? Nevel is reported to shoot some insane draw shots.
 

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Bob Jewett said:
So what would be a good test? I think the break shot isn't any good because it's hard to judge control, and you don't want to spin the ball much. Table length draw for maximum distance? Nevel is reported to shoot some insane draw shots.

The Miz had a pretty powerfull stroke as well. The way he used to make the cueball claw its way through a straight pool rack was pretty impressive.
 

sjm

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Unless specialist Mike Massey is considered, I think Strickland is a clear choice here.
 

PoolBum

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The most powerful stroke I've ever seen is that of Semih Sayginer (sp?), the 3-C player. The Accu-Stats tape of his exhibition is simply incredible.
 

sjm

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The most powerful stroke I've ever seen is that of Semih Sayginer (sp?), the 3-C player. The Accu-Stats tape of his exhibition is simply incredible.

Different equipment. Stiffer cue with shorter ferrule. Heated table. Different size balls. Different game. Unless you've seen Sayginer play pool, I wonder how you compared him to the pool players mentioned in this thread.

There's little doubt that Sayginer has the best stroke in three cushion. I've seen him live on three different occasions, and on two of those occasions, he did an exhibition, one of them without a cue (just his hands). The guy is awesome, and is a great showman, too.

So, I'll change my answer to:

Pocket billiards: Earl Strickland
3-cushion: Semih Sayginer

... fully understanding there's no way to compare the two.
 

predator

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Sayginer and Massey shots are most impressive. Artistic pool players would have to have advantage over "normal" players at power strokes because they practice those very often...perhaps most of the time?

As far as producing power strokes in regular high pressure tournament matches...that's something entirely different. For the best most powerful draw shot under pressure, I'd vote for Jimmy White. Drawing table length while CD and OB are more than 10ft apart is something special.
 

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sjm said:
Different equipment. Stiffer cue with shorter ferrule. Heated table. Different size balls. Different game. Unless you've seen Sayginer play pool, I wonder how you compared him to the pool players mentioned in this thread.

There's little doubt that Sayginer has the best stroke in three cushion. I've seen him live on three different occasions, and on two of those occasions, he did an exhibition, one of them without a cue (just his hands). The guy is awesome, and is a great showman, too.

So, I'll change my answer to:

Pocket billiards: Earl Strickland
3-cushion: Semih Sayginer

... fully understanding there's no way to compare the two.


all true,,,

but 3 cushion players simply KNOW the cb better than pool players. armed with an array of bridges and strokes meant to deliver any english they please where the pool player would probably try to figure things out with just their one pool bridge/stroke, the 3C player would come up with solutions only efren might have an inkling about,,,,,imo. and they would play with the same cue they use for 3C.

but anyway, this thread was meant for only pool players. but i had to throw my 2 cents in :):)
 
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predator said:
Sayginer and Massey shots are most impressive. Artistic pool players would have to have advantage over "normal" players at power strokes because they practice those very often...perhaps most of the time?

As far as producing power strokes in regular high pressure tournament matches...that's something entirely different. For the best most powerful draw shot under pressure, I'd vote for Jimmy White. Drawing table length while CD and OB are more than 10ft apart is something special.


You don't need a powerful stroke to draw the cueball when the object ball is 10ft away. You just need a fluid well developed stroke. It took me awhile, but I soon realized that I can draw the cueball from anywhere as long as my grip is loose, I follow through all the way, and I snap my wrist a little.
 

predator

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AceHigh said:
You don't need a powerful stroke to draw the cueball when the object ball is 10ft away. You just need a fluid well developed stroke. It took me awhile, but I soon realized that I can draw the cueball from anywhere as long as my grip is loose, I follow through all the way, and I snap my wrist a little.

Well, it's still was a powerstroke even if it didn't have the speed of a break stroke. You need a certain speed on the cueball, otherwise the friction will stop the backspin very soon. 10ft is a lot of distance and combined with a slower napped cloth...well, let's just say that Jimmy used much more than pocket speed but it looked effortless.
 

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LastTwo said:
I think that all the pro players have powerful strokes, but there are some who excel above the rest. I heard Larry Nevel is one of the best when it comes to this. Rodney Morris has a pretty powerful stroke too. Anyone else?


Earl Strickland.

Kim Davenport would be my second pick.
 

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MrLucky said:
would not Johnny Archer be in this esteem group? ;)

As far as "powerful" stroke, he would not even come close to the top of my list. The guy is a phenomenal player but he does not have a powerful stroke like the players we are talking about.
 

Williebetmore

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Mike Massey or George Breedlove. (As long as we're talking about power with some degree of accuracy, otherwise any big guy in a bar is probably just as powerful)
 
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