Cochran's

Grady

Pro Player
Cochran’s was anything and everything, simply the greatest pool room ever. 1028 Market St. was the actual address. I worked there in 1963. I got paid two dollars an hour and often I’d pay someone five bucks an hour to work for me so I could be in action. Public transportation was $.15. I didn’t own a car and neither did my friends.
Ronnie Allen won the One Pocket tournament there in 1962. When it was over nobody hustled him to play for money. Ronnie gave Earl Whitehead 8 to 5 and the break and won easily. Denny Searcy played Cliff Thorburn to a virtual draw on the 6’ X 12’ snooker table. That was a 40 hour match.
Here is an incomplete list of the regulars, as I remember them, with some assorted shorts:
“Trees”, worked for the post office for a while but liked pool and the race track too much to continue. A warm, honest human being who played decent Banks.
“Legs”, Gerald was his name, a good hustler and better than average shortstop.
“Ears”, smart and clever, a real good game maker.
100 Ball Blackie, still played a nice game in his dotage. We used to kid him and call him 10 Ball Blackie but he used to run 100’s on the 5’ X 10”.
“Kansas City Whitey”, a real rascal, his parents sent him $2,000 a month to stay away from home.
Jesse, “The Go Away Kid”, a flashy young black player with much gamble.
“King of the open table”, so called because on the “open Table” ( a 6’ X 12’ snooker table) anyone could play for the time. The King would go months without losing a single game but wouldn’t play for money.
“One Eyed Hank”, a brilliant but troubled player, spent half of every year at sea, killed himself with an overdose of LSD, or so it was said. I loved Hank and I still miss him.
“Mexican Phil”…A really good One Pocket player, moved like a ghost, was a terrific gambler, but couldn’t leave the bottle alone.
“Okie Sam”…Very good all round player and scuffler. He came from the Eddie Taylor school of pool. He died of cancer, broke and lonely.
Ronnie Allen displayed his power One Pocket game to everybody. He was aggressive and fearless and really unbeatable.
Frank “Bananas” Rodriguez…One of the sharpest gamblers I ever knew. He was a perfect gentleman and a very fine One Pocket player.
Canadian Dick…The resident philosopher. On the 6x12 table by the counter, there was a daily “out hole only” game. To give you an idea how good Dick played, one day in that game, 11 times in a row, he one railed his ball into the out hole. He moved to Burlingame and managed a pet store until he passed away.
“San Jose Dick”…He liked action so much that he would sometimes rent two tables next to each other and play two opponents at once. For awhile, Dick played about as good a One Pocket as anybody in the world.
Jack Perkins…A flashy young and sharp gambler who played One Pocket about a ball under Ronnie.
“Harry the Russian”…Used to hang around with “Bananas”. Harry was a good game maker and took care of himself.
“Hawaiian Paul”…Worked at the Palace down the street. Paul played as good a Nine Ball as anybody in the world but only against weak players and for small money. ($3 to $10 a game) Paul also played very good golf.
Rusty Jones, a high roller and one of the classiest gamblers I ever knew.
Denny Searcy, the best stroke of any player ever. It’s too bad scientists didn’t examine it when he was maybe the best player in the world.
Philipino Gene, a good card player and hustler.
“Oakland Blackie”, Bucktooth’s uncle and a top shortstop.
Earl Phillips, a venerable older player who never said a word but was tough to beat for the dough.
“Sleepy Bob”, a very fine player.
Johnny Vivas, played everything good, too bad he was a heroin addict.
Tugboat Whaley, grand old-timer who was one of the few willing to share knowledge.
While I was there, notable visitors included: Clem, Boston Shorty, Artie from Chicago, Jack Stamper, Eddie Taylor, Richie Florence, Weldon Rogers, Jack Coony, Al the Plumber, Portland Don, Cole Dickson, and Joe Salazar (Tracy Joe then.).
Cuetechasaurus, if you read this, feel free to let me know if I disliked any of these guys. Thanks.
 
San Jose Dick

Grady said:
“San Jose Dick”…He liked action so much that he would sometimes rent two tables next to each other and play two opponents at once. For awhile, Dick played about as good a One Pocket as anybody in the world.
Grady,

The only player on your list I was around much was San Jose Dick (McMoran?) when he came to Dallas for a spell, I think around 1963. Dick didn't show off his one-pocket skills much in Big D, I guess because Dallas didn't have many strong one-pocket players at that time, but he played a pretty mean game of 9-ball. I still remember the shot he made that told me he was something special. He was shooting the 4-ball in a 9-ball game and there didn't appear to be any available path to position on the five. Dick studied the shot for a while, dropped down, stroked, and drew whitey three rails for jam up position! Thanks for the memory!:)
 
barber

a local player from my area told me alot of stories from cochrans... sounds like everything and more than anybody can imagine.
 
Cuetechasaurus, if you read this, feel free to let me know if I disliked any of these guys. Thanks. :D You crack me up Grady! Great post. I enjoy reading these types of posts and have lately been asking around here in my hometown (Dayton) of stories of players of the past heyday's of pool.

Thanks again!
 
Grady said:
Cochran’s was anything and everything, simply the greatest pool room ever. 1028 Market St. was the actual address. I worked there in 1963. I got paid two dollars an hour and often I’d pay someone five bucks an hour to work for me so I could be in action. Public transportation was $.15. I didn’t own a car and neither did my friends.
Ronnie Allen won the One Pocket tournament there in 1962. When it was over nobody hustled him to play for money. Ronnie gave Earl Whitehead 8 to 5 and the break and won easily. Denny Searcy played Cliff Thorburn to a virtual draw on the 6’ X 12’ snooker table. That was a 40 hour match.
Here is an incomplete list of the regulars, as I remember them, with some assorted shorts:
“Trees”, worked for the post office for a while but liked pool and the race track too much to continue. A warm, honest human being who played decent Banks.
“Legs”, Gerald was his name, a good hustler and better than average shortstop.
“Ears”, smart and clever, a real good game maker.
100 Ball Blackie, still played a nice game in his dotage. We used to kid him and call him 10 Ball Blackie but he used to run 100’s on the 5’ X 10”.
“Kansas City Whitey”, a real rascal, his parents sent him $2,000 a month to stay away from home.
Jesse, “The Go Away Kid”, a flashy young black player with much gamble.
“King of the open table”, so called because on the “open Table” ( a 6’ X 12’ snooker table) anyone could play for the time. The King would go months without losing a single game but wouldn’t play for money.
“One Eyed Hank”, a brilliant but troubled player, spent half of every year at sea, killed himself with an overdose of LSD, or so it was said. I loved Hank and I still miss him.
“Mexican Phil”…A really good One Pocket player, moved like a ghost, was a terrific gambler, but couldn’t leave the bottle alone.
“Okie Sam”…Very good all round player and scuffler. He came from the Eddie Taylor school of pool. He died of cancer, broke and lonely.
Ronnie Allen displayed his power One Pocket game to everybody. He was aggressive and fearless and really unbeatable.
Frank “Bananas” Rodriguez…One of the sharpest gamblers I ever knew. He was a perfect gentleman and a very fine One Pocket player.
Canadian Dick…The resident philosopher. On the 6x12 table by the counter, there was a daily “out hole only” game. To give you an idea how good Dick played, one day in that game, 11 times in a row, he one railed his ball into the out hole. He moved to Burlingame and managed a pet store until he passed away.
“San Jose Dick”…He liked action so much that he would sometimes rent two tables next to each other and play two opponents at once. For awhile, Dick played about as good a One Pocket as anybody in the world.
Jack Perkins…A flashy young and sharp gambler who played One Pocket about a ball under Ronnie.
“Harry the Russian”…Used to hang around with “Bananas”. Harry was a good game maker and took care of himself.
“Hawaiian Paul”…Worked at the Palace down the street. Paul played as good a Nine Ball as anybody in the world but only against weak players and for small money. ($3 to $10 a game) Paul also played very good golf.
Rusty Jones, a high roller and one of the classiest gamblers I ever knew.
Denny Searcy, the best stroke of any player ever. It’s too bad scientists didn’t examine it when he was maybe the best player in the world.
Philipino Gene, a good card player and hustler.
“Oakland Blackie”, Bucktooth’s uncle and a top shortstop.
Earl Phillips, a venerable older player who never said a word but was tough to beat for the dough.
“Sleepy Bob”, a very fine player.
Johnny Vivas, played everything good, too bad he was a heroin addict.
Tugboat Whaley, grand old-timer who was one of the few willing to share knowledge.
While I was there, notable visitors included: Clem, Boston Shorty, Artie from Chicago, Jack Stamper, Eddie Taylor, Richie Florence, Weldon Rogers, Jack Coony, Al the Plumber, Portland Don, Cole Dickson, and Joe Salazar (Tracy Joe then.).
Cuetechasaurus, if you read this, feel free to let me know if I disliked any of these guys. Thanks.
I remember the black man in a army uniform that they called sarge that played one pocket, the old man with big ears that played one pocket also.
There was always a ring game on the 6 x 12 playing 6 ball and paying on every ball. One man who looked chinese that chalked his cue funny and played good. Two men in their 20's played 9-ball every nite for 20 and one was named Mario and the other always had on a white T-shirt and levis with bloned hair but I never knew him.
The man with a coin on a string that would run up your games on the machines for a price, and the other man that checked all the coin returns on every machine about every 20 minutes. And you could buy almost anything you wanted in a 3 hour span just sitting while the boosters came through. THey always brushed the tables soon as a player checked the balls in.
Definitely a great show for anyone.
 
Mr. Matthews,

Great list of players. You mentioned you were there in '63, when did you leave and why? Of course feel free to say it's none of my business, but I was just curious. Sounds like you loved the place.

Jim
 
Grady said:
Cochran’s was anything and everything, simply the greatest pool room ever. 1028 Market St. was the actual address. I worked there in 1963. I got paid two dollars an hour and often I’d pay someone five bucks an hour to work for me so I could be in action. Public transportation was $.15. I didn’t own a car and neither did my friends.
Ronnie Allen won the One Pocket tournament there in 1962. When it was over nobody hustled him to play for money. Ronnie gave Earl Whitehead 8 to 5 and the break and won easily. Denny Searcy played Cliff Thorburn to a virtual draw on the 6’ X 12’ snooker table. That was a 40 hour match.
Here is an incomplete list of the regulars, as I remember them, with some assorted shorts:
“Trees”, worked for the post office for a while but liked pool and the race track too much to continue. A warm, honest human being who played decent Banks.
“Legs”, Gerald was his name, a good hustler and better than average shortstop.
“Ears”, smart and clever, a real good game maker.
100 Ball Blackie, still played a nice game in his dotage. We used to kid him and call him 10 Ball Blackie but he used to run 100’s on the 5’ X 10”.
“Kansas City Whitey”, a real rascal, his parents sent him $2,000 a month to stay away from home.
Jesse, “The Go Away Kid”, a flashy young black player with much gamble.
“King of the open table”, so called because on the “open Table” ( a 6’ X 12’ snooker table) anyone could play for the time. The King would go months without losing a single game but wouldn’t play for money.
“One Eyed Hank”, a brilliant but troubled player, spent half of every year at sea, killed himself with an overdose of LSD, or so it was said. I loved Hank and I still miss him.
“Mexican Phil”…A really good One Pocket player, moved like a ghost, was a terrific gambler, but couldn’t leave the bottle alone.
“Okie Sam”…Very good all round player and scuffler. He came from the Eddie Taylor school of pool. He died of cancer, broke and lonely.
Ronnie Allen displayed his power One Pocket game to everybody. He was aggressive and fearless and really unbeatable.
Frank “Bananas” Rodriguez…One of the sharpest gamblers I ever knew. He was a perfect gentleman and a very fine One Pocket player.
Canadian Dick…The resident philosopher. On the 6x12 table by the counter, there was a daily “out hole only” game. To give you an idea how good Dick played, one day in that game, 11 times in a row, he one railed his ball into the out hole. He moved to Burlingame and managed a pet store until he passed away.
“San Jose Dick”…He liked action so much that he would sometimes rent two tables next to each other and play two opponents at once. For awhile, Dick played about as good a One Pocket as anybody in the world.
Jack Perkins…A flashy young and sharp gambler who played One Pocket about a ball under Ronnie.
“Harry the Russian”…Used to hang around with “Bananas”. Harry was a good game maker and took care of himself.
“Hawaiian Paul”…Worked at the Palace down the street. Paul played as good a Nine Ball as anybody in the world but only against weak players and for small money. ($3 to $10 a game) Paul also played very good golf.
Rusty Jones, a high roller and one of the classiest gamblers I ever knew.
Denny Searcy, the best stroke of any player ever. It’s too bad scientists didn’t examine it when he was maybe the best player in the world.
Philipino Gene, a good card player and hustler.
“Oakland Blackie”, Bucktooth’s uncle and a top shortstop.
Earl Phillips, a venerable older player who never said a word but was tough to beat for the dough.
“Sleepy Bob”, a very fine player.
Johnny Vivas, played everything good, too bad he was a heroin addict.
Tugboat Whaley, grand old-timer who was one of the few willing to share knowledge.
While I was there, notable visitors included: Clem, Boston Shorty, Artie from Chicago, Jack Stamper, Eddie Taylor, Richie Florence, Weldon Rogers, Jack Coony, Al the Plumber, Portland Don, Cole Dickson, and Joe Salazar (Tracy Joe then.).
Cuetechasaurus, if you read this, feel free to let me know if I disliked any of these guys. Thanks.

Grady,

Thanks for this, I'm going to print it out and show it to the guys I usually play with. Poker Paul, Morris Fletcher, Chico and some of the other guys around used to play there and remember you very well.

Morris was telling me the other day that you were a good player, then you went to LA for a while and came back a GREAT player. I'd be interested in your thoughts about what transpired in LA.

Cheers,
RC
 
La

I'll do a lengthy version sometime about LA. The short story is that yes, I went to LA about 64' and stayed a couple of years. It was exactly then on the west coast anyway, when the balls went to plastic and the tables to four and a half by nines from the 5 X 10 size. Bar tables were also brand new to me.
The first place of notable action was the Tropicana Bowl, in Inglewood, right close to the airport. There Richie Florence held sway but many other champions were around. Also celebrities like Mamie Van Doren, Dean Chance made regular appearances.
Then, and I'm not sure of the exact years, came in not necessarily this order: Daisy Mae's, great bar table players, Fred's in El Monte, where Buttermilk and I lived next door to Popcorn, Geese and Waterdog, Charlie Miliken's place in Norwalk,Vern Peterson's pool room in Bellflower, 4th and Main, the downtown Mexican place where guys didn't miss often.
I would go back and forth from LA to San Francisco, too, usually for some big action or to sneak someone in, like the time I took Jack Stamper to Cochran's.
There were some really great gambling matches, Ronnie Allen ran 100 and out on Jersey Red to win an all-around match, Larry Hubbart and Don Watson played to a draw at 9 Ball, Wade Crane broke even with Ritchie, there was the time Ritchie knocked Ronnie out in Bellflower, I had become pretty much undefeatable at Daisy Mae's and welcomed all challengers.
I could go on and on but later....
 
Grady said:
While I was there, notable visitors included: Clem, Boston Shorty, Artie from Chicago, Jack Stamper, Eddie Taylor, Richie Florence, Weldon Rogers, Jack Coony, Al the Plumber, Portland Don, Cole Dickson, and Joe Salazar (Tracy Joe then.).
Cuetechasaurus, if you read this, feel free to let me know if I disliked any of these guys. Thanks.


Grady...can you give more info if you have it on Al the Plumber? I heard he was brutal to gamble with, any truth?
 
Grady said:
I'll do a lengthy version sometime about LA. The short story is that yes, I went to LA about 64' and stayed a couple of years. It was exactly then on the west coast anyway, when the balls went to plastic and the tables to four and a half by nines from the 5 X 10 size. Bar tables were also brand new to me.
The first place of notable action was the Tropicana Bowl, in Inglewood, right close to the airport. There Richie Florence held sway but many other champions were around. Also celebrities like Mamie Van Doren, Dean Chance made regular appearances.
Then, and I'm not sure of the exact years, came in not necessarily this order: Daisy Mae's, great bar table players, Fred's in El Monte, where Buttermilk and I lived next door to Popcorn, Geese and Waterdog, Charlie Miliken's place in Norwalk,Vern Peterson's pool room in Bellflower, 4th and Main, the downtown Mexican place where guys didn't miss often.
I would go back and forth from LA to San Francisco, too, usually for some big action or to sneak someone in, like the time I took Jack Stamper to Cochran's.
There were some really great gambling matches, Ronnie Allen ran 100 and out on Jersey Red to win an all-around match, Larry Hubbart and Don Watson played to a draw at 9 Ball, Wade Crane broke even with Ritchie, there was the time Ritchie knocked Ronnie out in Bellflower, I had become pretty much undefeatable at Daisy Mae's and welcomed all challengers.
I could go on and on but later....


I think i read in your book where the cops pulled over a car with your neighbors in it and asked them all to ID themselves and it was " I'm Popcorn, Squirrel, Waterdog, Geese" etc. Then he asked them where they worked. Of course there wasn't a job amongst them-said they were pool players. I think they were escorted out of town-Anyway it was funny story however it ended.

I heard Waterdog was in not so great shape in a rest home in Chicago-Can anyone verify this?
 
Kansas City Whitey

Grady said:
Cochran’s “Kansas City Whitey”, a real rascal, his parents sent him $2,000 a month to stay away from home.

(I put this reply in Onepocket.org also since this thread also appears there)

Grady, I have to insert this. Kansas City Whitey hung at Bensingers for awhile. He was a fall down, pitiful, gutter-drunk, wino. He played OK, but his claim to fame--as far as I'm concerned-- was that his favorite drinking buddy from skid-row was none other than Richard Speck. The same guy who murdered the 8 nurses in Chicago. A great line from Whitey, "I cant believe Richie would do a thing like that." He called him Richie!

the Beard
 
freddy the beard said:
Grady said:
Cochran’s “Kansas City Whitey”, a real rascal, his parents sent him $2,000 a month to stay away from home.

(I put this reply in Onepocket.org also since this thread also appears there)

Grady, I have to insert this. Kansas City Whitey hung at Bensingers for awhile. He was a fall down, pitiful, gutter-drunk, wino. He played OK, but his claim to fame--as far as I'm concerned-- was that his favorite drinking buddy from skid-row was none other than Richard Speck. The same guy who murdered the 8 nurses in Chicago. A great line from Whitey, "I cant believe Richie would do a thing like that." He called him Richie!

the Beard


Dick Speck? He called him Richie??

Probably just a casual aquaintance!!:)
 
Voodoo Daddy said:
Grady...can you give more info if you have it on Al the Plumber? I heard he was brutal to gamble with, any truth?

Al was a great guy, as Grady said. A gentleman to play with and honorable. He did on a rare occasion whine a little, but much less than most. He didn't play quite the speed of the other players Grady mentioned, but played good. I knew Al fairly well and over many years, and never have heard of anyone having trouble with him. He is gone now, and his name often comes up among old friends. If you know Poker Paul, as mentioned earlier, he can give you detailed information,..... on just about anything. Saw him recently after many years also.
 
bananas....

I never got the chance to meet bananas but I play in his pool hall all the time. He passed on before I became a frequent visitor. Joe Salazar....I still see every couple of months. The only guy I know with that big of a game and cue collection.....:D :D :D
 
Bananas

Mystick Cue Fan said:
I never got the chance to meet bananas but I play in his pool hall all the time. He passed on before I became a frequent visitor. Joe Salazar....I still see every couple of months. The only guy I know with that big of a game and cue collection.....:D :D :D

Excerpt from The GosPool, According To The Beard, my next book:

...Bobby Strauss...received... a 58 game One Pocket lashing from one of the foremost grinders of all-time, Frank "Bananas" Rodriquez from San Antonio, TX. Bobby played him for $30 a game... a 72 hour session -- without a raise. Bananas, an old school hustler, had pool-water-torture raised to a fine art. Not even 70 plus hours of pool, and being a jillion games ahead, could entice Bananas to loosen up and go for a marginal shot. His laborious preparation before every shot was maddening. He would take 2 to 3 minutes to drill in a hanger game ball. Even the sweators of the session -- of which I was one -- got the shivers watching Bananas' sadistic performance.

the Beard
 
Hey Grady, my friend Ronnie Barber said he sold a balabushka or some other nice cue to you years ago. I was just curious if you remember the cue- I've seen your posts with his name on it so I know you remember him.

He also said you called him a nit when he wouldn't raise the bet:D

He was laughing when he told me because he knows that sometimes he prefers to take what he's won and exit stage left ...
 
freddy the beard said:
Excerpt from The GosPool, According To The Beard, my next book:

...Bobby Strauss...received... a 58 game One Pocket lashing from one of the foremost grinders of all-time, Frank "Bananas" Rodriquez from San Antonio, TX. Bobby played him for $30 a game... a 72 hour session -- without a raise. Bananas, an old school hustler, had pool-water-torture raised to a fine art. Not even 70 plus hours of pool, and being a jillion games ahead, could entice Bananas to loosen up and go for a marginal shot. His laborious preparation before every shot was maddening. He would take 2 to 3 minutes to drill in a hanger game ball. Even the sweators of the session -- of which I was one -- got the shivers watching Bananas' sadistic performance.

the Beard
Bananas was so slow, it took him two hores to watch 60 Minutes.
 
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