Good luck in your pool travels, you may not have much fun as flukes are part of it. If you can't come to grips with that pool may be a struggle. As i said before both snooker and Heyball, highest paying cue games, allow flukes and no one complains. You let this stuff get in your head you're toast in competition.
“Less Lucky” Version of 10 Ball?
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Pool is a game of inches so rolls have to be allowed. Even the pros say they depend on some luck and of course Efren the GOAT is known for saying "I got lucky."
You can play whatever game you want under your own rules to make it as difficult as you choose and hope to find someone willing to play. Call shot, call safe can be a boring game for an audience to watch.
I play Saratoga with difficult rules (which i choose) and the beauty of it is that you have to clear your set before potting the 8 so you don't have to deal with the "unlucky" factor of running all the balls and missing the 9 or 10 and your opponent just make that ball to win the game.
You can play whatever game you want under your own rules to make it as difficult as you choose and hope to find someone willing to play. Call shot, call safe can be a boring game for an audience to watch.
I play Saratoga with difficult rules (which i choose) and the beauty of it is that you have to clear your set before potting the 8 so you don't have to deal with the "unlucky" factor of running all the balls and missing the 9 or 10 and your opponent just make that ball to win the game.
I don’t think stymies were ever a thing in stroke play. I do think there were changes over the years about marking and cleaning your ball on the greens. I don’t know for sure and can’t cite the evolution of those rules. I think in stroke play you had to mark if your ball was in the way but maybe couldn’t clean your ball and maybe had to place it back with the mud in the same place. Not sure. But now of course you always mark and clean and can fix all types of damage on the greens etc….
Getting rid of stymies was one of the best moves ever in golf. The rule was modified a couple times and done away with in the early 50's. Letting people with little skill play a chip shot over a ball on the green is insane.
What levels the playing field is playing many racks of 9 ball. Of course one rack can be decided by luck, but if you play 10 racks then the better player will prevail.
There's no point of 10 ball if it has the same rules as 9 ball. And you can't make the money ball early in 8 ball either!
Really? The most successful 10b event in history is the DCC Bigfoot and they play TE rules. Exciting, fun to watch and fans love it. CS/CS 10b last is boring as fk to both play or watch. 10b last i can take but cs/cs is just neutered pool.
I think the appeal of the Bigfoot 10 ball event is the giant table which makes pro players look a little more human.
I agree that call safeties are bad for rotation games, but doesn't the incoming player have the option to make the shooter take it? That at least prevents endless cheap safeties when people get out of position.
There is no better way to kill pool than call shot/call safe 10 ball. People already bitch about slow play and the need for shot clocks, it would be over the top slow with the above rule set.
No. DCC Bigfoot plays straight-up TE rules. The incoming player's option deal is in regular WPA 10b rules. It only happens if a player illegally pockets a ball. https://www.derbycityclassic.com/pages/bigfoot BTW, what is a 'cheap safety'? If its a legal hit why is it cheap?
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InsertCleverNameHere
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"luck" goes both ways. It is part of the game regardless of your feelings on it. You can never eliminate it completely. Do you obsess about the weather because that's basically the same thing, out of your control. But you're pretty dug in here so you'll probably just keep yelling at the clouds
Yep, its approaching that definition of insanity about saying/doing the same things and expecting a different result. Its possible that cat is new to the game and doesn't like the rule-sets but he is going to have to play by them. I've played for 45yrs and just rolled with whatever the rules were at the time. Some newer rule aspects i'm not a fan of but i'd play by them if they were in use say at a tournament. Always assumed luck was just part of it."luck" goes both ways. It is part of the game regardless of your feelings on it. You can never eliminate it completely. Do you obsess about the weather because that's basically the same thing, out of your control. But you're pretty dug in here so you'll probably just keep yelling at the clouds
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I hate to break it to you, but a lot more people watch World Chess Championships than will ever watch any pool championship. A simple googling will confirm this.Idk if you'd destroy it, you'd just turn it into chess. How many people watch chess??
They actually televise chess? Where? Come in handy when i can't fall asleep.
I don't watch chess myself, but they stream everything these days and it'd be easy to find.They actually televise chess? Where? Come in handy when i can't fall asleep.
When I want to doze off instantly I watch straight pool. It was even more snoozeworthy when players actually called each shot out loud, as if you couldn't have figured it out by watching.
Watch Sigel's 150 on Zuglan. Nothing about that that was cause for noddin off. I can't watch snooker for more than 30min without snoring.
The only straight pool match I ever enjoyed watching was an Accu-Stats DVD of Nick Vlahos handing Earl's head to him in a 1990's Maine event, and then in the post-match interview telling the commentator (Incardona IIRC) that while Earl is a great shooter, "he just doesn't understand the game." (Meaning straight pool, not pool in general.) I enjoyed it mainly because I knew Vlahos when he was just 14 year old "Little Nicky" who was torturing every local one pocket player who was foolish enough to play him. Let's just say he never lacked confidence in his game.
dreamhouse
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Guys, I’ve said multiple times I know luck will always exist in the game. My point is slight rule modifications would drastically reduce it, creating an improved game of skill.
I’ll still play either way, and I’ll still shit in balls along with my opponents
But we should always think about what variations can be made to our game to enhance the experience for different types of players.
Slop counting doesn't necessarily reward the shooter. One positive rule of APA 8 ball is that it requires some dexterity to pull off certain kinds of safeties rather than just pocketing a ball and calling safe.
9 and 10 ball being opposites in this regard allows both schools of thought to exist.