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CONGRATS TO KO...Funny how some of you guys never whine when shane gets lucky he gets his fair share luck same as all the players 9 ball is a lucky game anyway so stop whining when other players gets luck ....
 
puma122 said:
SVB's facebook post. Class in my opinion:

Thanks for everyone support. It was fun and pleasure playing in the finals. I feel like I am at top of my game. But fell short from couple mistakes that cost me big time. Ko play great and he deserve the win. It was great match and experience I will never forget. Congrats to Ko pin yi. Thanks everyone for positive support.
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off to London tonight and will keep you all posted for World Cup of pool in few days.
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THIS is how you take a loss....a class act....
 
PoolBum said:
Yep, Shane has always been a class act.
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Agreed. Shane has always showed impeccable sportsmanship, he would have deserved the title. But the way he was/is playing, he'll get one for sure. I think he showed up with much more hunger and resolve compared to last year, when he folded under brilliant Yu-Lung Chang in the single elimination. Shane had his revenge on Chang this year. The zen of mind and extreme but effortless focus is oozing from Shane and only top form players like Ko or Wu could shake Shane in any way with a bit of luck. When there are only a few errors in 24 racks of 9-ball, luck will always play part in it, even the lack of good rolls can be considered "luck".

Dear Shane fans, get over it and be happy for the nice finish. At least now everyone knows who's the leader of the pack now. There is absolutely no questioning of Shane's capabilities and talent. Too bad the forum battles are going to get heavily one-sided from now on... and will die out when Shane gets his first world championships title :D
 
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one stroke said:
The only time Shane beat Ko was after they let Shane back in after his 2nd loss when Ko thought he was going to get a by .. It clearly affected him


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Shane beat Ko two other times, in a group stage match at the 8-ball worlds in 2010 and in the US Open 8-ball in 2013.

It's been back & forth
 
mikeyfrost said:
Then Ko ran out with absolute control of the table including a sporty shot on the 3, he worked that side pocket to force that off angle position straight.
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That was a cool little shot most people won't even notice. He was not even straight on that ball, he actually had to cut it slightly to the left but used an elevated cue for almost a jump spin trick shot to create an angle where there certainly was none.

Then, at that score under that pressure he shot the 4 with more authority than many pros would dream of at that stage. Most people tighten up and roll that ball and play pretty conservative, Ko totally stroked that ball like it was the second game of a final 64 match.

People can say what they want about earlier luck, but when he got close at the end he closed out the match like a champion.
 
mikeyfrost said:
I have no words for this. He's probably going to luck his way to 5 or 6 world championships before his time is up. Ko doesn't have to lose to anyone breathing air. Go make a living betting against him in big matches, tell me how that works out for you.
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Lmao. Can't argue with that homie


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Colin Colenso said:
He'd have been down 10-4 if the balls ran 50-50. The guy has great qualities, including performing well near the finishing line, but he's not got the skill sets of the last 2 guys he got lucky to beat tonight.

Wu and Shane are capable of beating him 11-2. He's only capable of scraping a win against them if he gets a few rolls.
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Are you trolling? Be honest.
 
3RAILKICK said:
ICBW...but fading the disproportionate Ko biased rolls may have finally affected SVB play and caused a more fatalistic viewpoint. I thot SVB held up real well despite the many rolls that went against him. He did all he could do with what he could control.

Ko certainly played very well. That combined with seemingly reliable good fortune was too tough to overcome. Ko's wry smile after several late match inadvertant hooks, or good outcomes after crashing into balls..seemed to indicate that he felt that this victory was meant to be. Hard to argue..riding that wave.

Disappointing loss for SVB.

His break may have worked too well....made the 1 in the corner many times instead of hanging it for a good opening shot..

One of the match themes:

SVB...hit it so good, it was bad. (break)

Ko.....hit it so bad, it was good. (pick among several)

Stuff happens.


To win championships one has to play well and get rolls.

That certainly happened here.

Congratulations to Ko and SVB

Condolences to Huggers

Good play by both...the luck factor though was too large a contributor to the outcome....unfortunately, luck played a deciding roll in this match.
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fixed :grin-square:
 
Celtic said:
That was a cool little shot most people won't even notice. He was not even straight on that ball, he actually had to cut it slightly to the left but used an elevated cue for almost a jump spin trick shot to create an angle where there certainly was none.

Then, at that score under that pressure he shot the 4 with more authority than many pros would dream of at that stage. Most people tighten up and roll that ball and play pretty conservative, Ko totally stroked that ball like it was the second game of a final 64 match.

People can say what they want about earlier luck, but when he got close at the end he closed out the match like a champion.
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Exactly that's what I meant when I said he was just getting stronger at the end and SVB looked a little weak. There's no great way to describe it but judging from SVB post he knows he was beaten too fair and square. The result can absolutely change if they play again.....it probably won't though based on history
 
I'm having trouble understanding the shot he made on the 3. How did he get the cue ball to cut the "wrong" way like that?
 
Everyone saying how 9 ball sucks and all that, the same rolls happen in 10 ball too, with the exception of the one fluked 9 ball, so unless they use those Predator tour rules, it doesn't make much of a difference.
 
TheLoneSilencer said:
It was soft until then compared to what other top players faced. He played a lot of shortstop type players before getting to Dennis.
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Yu Lung Chang is not a short stop.

I am no SVB nut hugger but beating Yu Lung Chang, Dennis, and Little Ko to make it to the final was a strong run. Other guys had tough draws as well, no doubt. That is why people have always said these titles are different, there really is no "easy draw" to win these world Championships. You need to beat multiple elite level players to win a world championship title.

In a US Open you might only need to beat one world champion level player to win the whole event, one Dennis or one Alex. You will never see a US Open requiring what SVB did in this event take it to the finals. To be blunt, this second place finish at the world 9-ball championships is a bigger accomplishment than any single US Open win. The fields are not remotely comparable.
 
Not sure if it's been posted somewhere, but here's the link to the finals again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxEv-fhVDgM

I missed parts of the ending due to the stream dropping and running off to work.

Wow Shane got called for an illegal break at 1:20 mark, score was Shane 9-8. This rack was the game changer.
 
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supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

What a supercalifragilisticexpialidocious final - one of best finals I ever watched and what a thrilling show these 2 deserving elite players put up
These 2 really proved what pundits and Azbers have been saying for long time - these are 2 of best
Sure Ko had some luck beating SVB in final but there is always element of luck 9 ball and it is not his fault that pool gods favored him. All the negative comments are unnecessary.
The key thing is like it or not Ko delivered when it mattered breaking SVB serve (in his first break serve) after SVB sold out in the last rack. SVB did not capitalise when he first broke Ko's serve to get to 8-6. We saw same storyline in last year's 2 CSI rotation matches - Shane got ahead breaking Ko's serve first in the challenge and 10 ball tourney but Ko had the mental fortitude and gear to catch up and snatch the matches. As someone here mentioned , maybe Shane thumping his opponents in last few matches did not make him battle ready. Ko on other hand had to claw back to take out Morra and the great Wu in a thrilling hill hill semi ( Wu was slight favorite in that semi). We have seen how overcoming adversity and being battle ready in such high level high pressure tourneys are so critical . Double World Champion within 1 year is hard to beat- last time that happened was 10 years ago when some kid Wu took the W8B and W9B. I would have liked sentimental favorite Wu to win this W9B but I am equally fine with Big Ko winning it . :)
Shane put on an awesome display of his capabilities in this tourney playing flawless runout pool demolishing few of world's best players Chang Yu Lung, Dennis Orcullo, Lil Ko. This tourney absolutely proved that monkey is off his back in overseas tourneys. This may just be the real turning point when he starts winning overseas tourneys and WC very soon.
Shane is classy and his Facebook post that Ko deserves the win says it all
Well done to Ko and Shane. :)
 
spartan said:
What a supercalifragilisticexpialidocious final - one of best finals I ever watched and what a thrilling show these 2 deserving elite players put up
These 2 really proved what pundits and Azbers have been saying for long time - these are 2 of best
Sure Ko had some luck beating SVB in final but there is always element of luck 9 ball and it is not his fault that pool gods favored him. All the negative comments are unnecessary.
The key thing is like it or not Ko delivered when it mattered breaking SVB serve (in his first break serve) after SVB sold out in the last rack. SVB did not capitalise when he first broke Ko's serve to get to 8-6. We saw same storyline in last year's 2 CSI rotation matches - Shane got ahead breaking Ko's serve first in the challenge and 10 ball tourney but Ko had the mental fortitude and gear to catch up and snatch the matches. As someone here mentioned , maybe Shane thumping his opponents in last few matches did not make him battle ready. Ko on other hand had to claw back to take out Morra and the great Wu in a thrilling hill hill semi ( Wu was slight favorite in that semi). We have seen how overcoming adversity and being battle ready in such high level high pressure tourneys are so critical . Double World Champion within 1 year is hard to beat- last time that happened was 10 years ago when some kid Wu took the W8B and W9B. I would have liked sentimental favorite Wu to win this W9B but I am equally fine with Big Ko winning it . :)
Shane put on an awesome display of his capabilities in this tourney playing flawless runout pool demolishing few of world's best players Chang Yu Lung, Dennis Orcullo, Lil Ko. This tourney absolutely proved that monkey is off his back in overseas tourneys. This may just be the real turning point when he starts winning overseas tourneys and WC very soon.
Shane is classy and his Facebook post that Ko deserves the win says it all
Well done to Ko and Shane. :)
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Thos is another great post Spartan.
 
Celtic said:
... In a US Open you might only need to beat one world champion level player to win the whole event, one Dennis or one Alex. You will never see a US Open requiring what SVB did in this event take it to the finals. To be blunt, this second place finish at the world 9-ball championships is a bigger accomplishment than any single US Open win. The fields are not remotely comparable.
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In case anyone would like to compare the opponents Shane faced this week with those he beat to win each of his 4 US Open Championships:

2015 WPA World 9-Ball Championship
1. Omran Salem 9-6
2. Richard Jones 9-5
3. Tomasz Kaplan 11-3
4. Francisco Diaz-Pizarro 11-5
5. Yu-Lung Chang 11-5
6. Dennis Orcollo 11-1
7. Ping-Chung Ko 11-1
8, Pin-Yi Ko 11-13

2015 Total -- 84-39 (68% wins)

2007 US Open 9-Ball Championship
1. Sylver Ochoa 11-5
2. Chad Pike 11-1
3. Sparky Ferrell 11-8
4. Marcus Chamat 11-3
5. Ronnie Wiseman 11-8
6. Corey Deuel 11-8
7. Ronnie Alcano 11-4
8. Tomoko Mekari 11-9
9. Ronnie Alcano 13-10

2007 Total -- 101-56 (64%)

2012 US Open 9-Ball Championship
1. Bye
2. Adam Smith 11-1
3. Tom Karabatsos 11-2
4. Nick Van Den Berg 11-4
5. Chris Melling 11-4
6. Ronnie Alcano 11-10
7. Jose Parica 11-5
8. Alex Pagulayan 11-5
9. Dennis Orcollo 13-7

2012 total -- 90-38 (70%)

2013 US Open 9-Ball Championship
1. Bye
2. Ronny Oldervik 11-6
3. Omar Al Shaheen 11-5
4. Fabio Petroni 11-3
5. Danny Mastermaker 11-5
6. Jeremy Sossei 11-7
7. Chris Melling 11-6
8. Jayson Shaw 11-5
9. Lee Vann Corteza 13-10

2013 total -- 90-47 (66%)

2014 US Open 9-Ball Championship
1. Bye
2. Robb Saez 11-10
3. Earl Strickland 11-7
4. Do Hoang Quan 11-10
5. Karl Boyes 11-6
6. Dennis Orcollo 11-5
7. Nick Ekonomopoulos 11-4
8. Dennis Orcollo 13-10

2014 total -- 79-52 (60%)

2007 and 2012-2014 US Open total -- 360-193 (65%)
 
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gxman said:
Not sure if it's been posted somewhere, but here's the link to the finals again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxEv-fhVDgM

I missed parts of the ending due to the stream dropping and running off to work.

Wow Shane got called for an illegal break at 1:20 mark, score was Shane 9-8. This rack was the game changer.
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I just viewed this rack gxman... This rack was indeed the game changer. But it wasnt the illegal break. It was svb getting back to the table, getting a lil flat on 5, then hooking himself with 3 balls on table. He would've been up 10-8 right there, huge game...
 
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