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Alternating break 9 ball. I'm not surprised.

If that was me instead of Shane, the stream wouldn't have had a chance to fail before they pulled the plug. After the billionth roll, I would have broke my cue over my knee and the Ko's over the table just before they hauled me off in the midst of spewing a steady stream of 4 letter invectives.

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Actually i think it said mountains for Shane's game that he could get 2nd in an alternate break format in a tourny full of champions. That is not to imply i like alternate break- I hate it!
 
I wonder what you USA guys were saying after the 2002 world championship finals. Oh, everything was ok right ????? The U.S player won !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grow up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
As I said Ko was playing close matches the entire time and it showed at the end of the set. That last push out from SVB is why he lost. Nothing to do with luck, when it came time to out move him to force it hill hill he sold out in a big moment. Then Ko ran out with absolute control of the table including a sporty shot on the 3, he worked that side pocket to force that off angle position straight.

The better player won
He'd have been down 10-4 if the balls ran 50-50. The guy has great qualities, including performing well near the finishing line, but he's not got the skill sets of the last 2 guys he got lucky to beat tonight.

Wu and Shane are capable of beating him 11-2. He's only capable of scraping a win against them if he gets a few rolls.
 
Shane's push out was not poor. He was either going to have a better kick after Ko took the shot or he was going to have a better kick after Ko gave it back. He just hit it a little fat and left Ko a shot. I think that was a pretty smart push though.
 
i dont get all the whining. maybe no one noticed - shane just gets better and better. maybe it's not just his time today. also, this is 9-ball. there's an element of luck and no one can blame Ko for having and taking advantage of it.
 
I wonder what you USA guys were saying after the 2002 world championship finals. Oh, everything was ok right ????? The U.S player won !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Grow up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No offense, but you've got to be blind or a fricking idiot to not think luck played a major factor in that match. It got to be so much that Ko couldn't help but to laugh when he was leaving the table.
 
and the better characters got the most air time on the Hustlers!

If that was true there would be a season 2...but there isn't...and we all know why.

I don't know what match you were watching.

Ko played very well but his luck exceeded his skill in this match. The commentators saw the incredible luck that kept coming for Ko.

The chat room spectators saw Ko's incredible luck and commented constantly about it.

I guess I just don't understand how you can say luck had nothing to do with this loss for Shane.

Oh well, I guess everyone sees what they want to see, including me.

JoeyA

As a player if you can't see that SVB made no adjustments through the set (especially the break where the 1 goes in at the end) and he got weak during the last 6 games there is nothing I can say that will change your mind. You have to come up big when it's time to come up big. SVB played good, he just didn't play better than Ko.
 
No offense but when these two play, SVB usually comes up a little short. Ko is probably the best in the world right now, it's his turn. I think the outcome would have been the same had he faced Wu. Even at the very apex of pool there are World Champions who know what it takes to close out and there are some elite guys that people will make excuses for.

What I saw when I watched were poor pushouts from SVB, no adjustment on his break to shorten up that 1 ball going in the corner pocket, and Ko holding his nerve in incredible fashion. Although the score was tied, I think 9-9 was the turning point for me. SVB looked slightly weaker from there like the moment got to him. Ko on the other hand only appeared to be getting stronger and stronger as the pressure built. That guy is cold blooded and as calculated a player as I have ever watched. He goes to the table with a plan for the entire rack and executes it. The shots that people are saying he got lucky on is a joke, the only other alternative was he makes the ball and gets out. It takes a special level of play to win up there and now you have a 2 time world champion getting discredited on a pool forum.

I wanted SVB to win as much as anyone but I can recognize Ko did something real special and DESERVED the win the most.

I have a lot of respect for Shane. It's his fans that I give it to because they are so arrogant.

Wu imo is the best right now. Ko is a little behind him still imo. Both Ko and Wu are better than Shane at staying composed, accepting mistakes, handling the tight matches, etc. and a little better pocketing and moving overall but Shane is not far behind skill wise. A little farther behind mentally.
 
meh, joke of a format, luckbox to the title. Shane flopped a set, all in. Ko went runner, runner flush, good game.

No, the joke happens to be people like you who look for every excuse in the book to cover up for the fact he has once again failed to get the job done on the biggest stages.

If he won, you would be one of the first ones praising him as a world champion. You can't have it both ways.

He is one of the top players in the world but facts continue to prove you can't call him the best in the world as the resume proves he is not period. End of discussion
 
You are on crack...

As I said Ko was playing close matches the entire time and it showed at the end of the set. That last push out from SVB is why he lost. Nothing to do with luck, when it came time to out move him to force it hill hill he sold out in a big moment. Then Ko ran out with absolute control of the table including a sporty shot on the 3, he worked that side pocket to force that off angle position straight.

The better player won

REALLY???? So Ko's miss on the two nine and two rail slop in the side didn't affect the outcome at all? His three misses that resulted in lucky safes didn't affect the outcome at all? No, it was Shane's choice of push after an unlucky roll after the break (in ONE rack) that allowed the "Superior" player to win.. OK.... :rolleyes:

Jaden
 
Wu and Shane are capable of beating him 11-2. He's only capable of scraping a win against them if he gets a few rolls.

That is the most biased and ignorant thing I've seen here. You do realize Ko won the World 10 Ball AND World 9 ball championship in one year right? That's not a fluke. Yes he got lucky, but to say he's not up to Shane or Wu's level is just plain disrespectful. He's the closest to a player getting a pool grandslam.
 
What seemed to going wrong with shane's play? I heard the commentators saying shane was out of it? I started to watch when it was 9-9


ICBW...but fading the disproportionate Ko biased rolls may have finally affected SVB play and caused a more fatalistic viewpoint. I thot SVB held up real well despite the many rolls that went against him. He did all he could do with what he could control.

Ko certainly played very well. That combined with seemingly reliable good fortune was too tough to overcome. Ko's wry smile after several late match inadvertant hooks, or good outcomes after crashing into balls..seemed to indicate that he felt that this victory was meant to be. Hard to argue..riding that wave.

Disappointing loss for SVB.

His break may have worked too well....made the 1 in the corner many times instead of hanging it for a good opening shot..

One of the match themes:

SVB...hit it so good, it was bad. (break)

Ko.....hit it so bad, it was good. (pick among several)

Stuff happens.


To win championships one has to play well and get rolls.

That certainly happened here.

Congratulations to Ko.

Condolences to SVB.

Good play by both...the luck factor though was too large a contributor to the outcome....unfortunately, luck played a deciding roll in this match.
 
REALLY???? So Ko's miss on the two nine and two rail slop in the side didn't affect the outcome at all? His three misses that resulted in lucky safes didn't affect the outcome at all? No, it was Shane's choice of push after an unlucky roll after the break (in ONE rack) that allowed the "Superior" player to win.. OK.... :rolleyes:

Jaden

Do you whimper when you type?
 
I hope this match is uploaded to YouTube like some of the other matches. I would like to see the rest of the match. I lost the stream just after Ko slopped the 9 ball in.

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He'd have been down 10-4 if the balls ran 50-50. The guy has great qualities, including performing well near the finishing line, but he's not got the skill sets of the last 2 guys he got lucky to beat tonight.

Wu and Shane are capable of beating him 11-2. He's only capable of scraping a win against them if he gets a few rolls.

I have no words for this. He's probably going to luck his way to 5 or 6 world championships before his time is up. Ko doesn't have to lose to anyone breathing air. Go make a living betting against him in big matches, tell me how that works out for you.
 
He'd have been down 10-4 if the balls ran 50-50. The guy has great qualities, including performing well near the finishing line, but he's not got the skill sets of the last 2 guys he got lucky to beat tonight.

Wu and Shane are capable of beating him 11-2. He's only capable of scraping a win against them if he gets a few rolls.
You do realize that Ko has beaten Shane basically everytime they've come across eachother, right? Well, except 8 ball. Shane beat him once in 8 ball.

Frankly, I think Wu had the superior play out of all 3 players. He just didn't break very well today.
 
I have a lot of respect for Shane. It's his fans that I give it to because they are so arrogant.

Wu imo is the best right now. Ko is a little behind him still imo. Both Ko and Wu are better than Shane at staying composed, accepting mistakes, handling the tight matches, etc. and a little better pocketing and moving overall but Shane is not far behind skill wise. A little farther behind mentally.
That's rayciss :D
 
I have no words for this. He's probably going to luck his way to 5 or 6 world championships before his time is up. Ko doesn't have to lose to anyone breathing air. Go make a living betting against him in big matches, tell me how that works out for you.

You can't argue with stupid. I agree 100% with your post.
 
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