1 Pocket - Shot After The Break
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Well,whats your move?Patrick Johnson said:
Since I don't see a path underneath the stack, and I don't see a 3-railer to the opponent's hole, I think I'd play the slow crawl intentional on the 14-ball, trying to stick on the 2-ball to protect the 11-ball.Patrick Johnson said:
Players with better cueball control than I might one rail off the 1-ball between the two stripes towards the 6-ball.
Fred
It's a trivial response...bank the 15 at the stack and let the CB cruise behind the 6. If the 15 hits the 13, the 7 will travel to your pocket...if you hit the 3/8 the 2 will combo the 11 to your pocket. Lots of good things will happen no matter how well you hit it.
EDIT: Here's what I was describing.
EDIT: Here's what I was describing.
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This is what I would probably attempt....
If you can beat the kiss back, then it's a great shot. I'd have to see these balls on a table to see if I'd attempt it. To me, it looks like the cueball has to be in the kissback zone an awfully long time since it looks like you're stunning the cueball towards the 6-ball.mosconiac said:
Fred
imo.
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Here's my return move AZE......
mosconiac said:
Yep, that's what I had in mind. I don't think the kiss is a problem - you don't need any angle on the 15 because of throw - but it might look different on a real table.
Banking balls into the stack is often a productive thing to do when it seems there's nothing available. This layout happens to have a makeable ball or two (mainly the 7 caroming off the 2), but even without that it moves balls the right way.
But I also wondered if anybody would see anything else aggressive (I didn't). AZE's shot is interesting...
pj
chgo
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It is no easy task controlling the cueball with that shot.Preventing the cueball from scratching,while still sliding between the 6-10 is WAY more difficult than it seems.Everything looks easy on a monitor.I can fantasize shooting these miracle shots.However,when considering the position from a realistic standpoint,it changes things.I just wish we were standing around a table with real balls trying this stuff out.Patrick Johnson said:
Really? I think it's high percentage. To my mind the risk is misjudging the speed and letting him out from behind the 6.
pj
chgo
Patrick Johnson said:
Best shot available if it's on.
What if you can't see enough of the 15? Here's a shot that could turn the game around. Hit the cue ball below center with right english.
longhair said:
Great shot. I can honestly say I've shot both thousands of times...but the more I played, the more I stuck with playing the fifteen straight into the ten, just because that fifteen ball tends to stick around way too often when it hits the rail before the ten ball.
Good point. Maybe the very safest route would be to actually pocket the 10 (or try to). that way you know the 15 is going away, maybe even into the 5 on your side.senor said:
One problem with this shot is that it does give your opponent access to the balls in front of your hole. It's so potentially powerful that I think it's worth it.
This is what I immediately thought of. That's probably from playing 1P with hillbilly. I've seen this shot several times from Charlie because I hit the cue at the wrong speed and/or angle on the break. The cueball is way off the rail.This is like a 4-way shot.mosconiac said:
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Patrick Johnson said:
Hi PJ
I don't see lines in your original layout. Were you trying to show a shot or just asking a question?
Since I see the word "aggressive" in your post, the first thing I look for is a dead ball. Here is something close to Mosconiac's but I am "twist-banking" it with more juice on the cb...
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