10 Ft Diamond Table questions

iusedtoberich said:
That's cool. I thought Diamond quite making the 10' tables 5 or 6 years ago. Please update with pictures when you get it installed:)
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They don’t advertise the 10 footer, special order only. I’ll be sure to get a picture when it arrives. April is when Diamond said it would be here.
 
Smutzc said:
They don’t advertise the 10 footer, special order only. I’ll be sure to get a picture when it arrives. April is when Diamond said it would be here.
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I’m guessing a custom 10 foot Diamond now is around $13k? As I recall I got a price quote for one about five years ago before purchasing our Gabriel‘s 10’ table and I believe the price quote was around $10K at that time.
 
Smutzc said:
I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of our new 10 Ft Pro/am Diamond table with pro cut pockets. I am wondering does anyone else have a 10 ft Diamond, and does playing on the 10 footer give you an advantage when going to leauge and shooting on a 7 foot bar box?

I’m always trying to challenge myself, and by no means did I master our gold crown 9 ft. I can only think playing on a 10 footer day in day out would only help focus and accuracy. Any thoughts ?
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Almost irrelevant to a bar table, just so vastly different ....except it will make you a straight shooter.

I played on the diamond 10 footers several times at SBE. Broke and ran a rack of 10 ball while Jayson Shaw was watching! The key is to not leave yourself too long a shot and be sure you aren't stretching out too far beyond about mid table. The position zones will feel gigantic when compared to a 9 footer. I'd love to have a 10 footer....

I know a 10 foot player will be more confident on a nine foot...just like nine foot players don't sweat pocketing balls on 7 footers.
 
I think it's easier to go from 9' to 7' than 10' to 7', you'll probably overrun position more often, I know I did.
 
Yes, the position zones may be bigger, but you still better not leave yourself long tough shots or it will catch up with you, particularly on a tight pocket 10 footer!
 
Smutzc said:
I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of our new 10 Ft Pro/am Diamond table with pro cut pockets. I am wondering does anyone else have a 10 ft Diamond, and does playing on the 10 footer give you an advantage when going to leauge and shooting on a 7 foot bar box?

I’m always trying to challenge myself, and by no means did I master our gold crown 9 ft. I can only think playing on a 10 footer day in day out would only help focus and accuracy. Any thoughts ?
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I have access to a 10 foot brunswick and I will tell you what you dont want to hear. It is not going to benefit you going to a bar box. It will benefit you going to a 9 footer though. The only game I see that could give you benefit playing on a bar box is straight pool for bar box 8-ball. All the other games the balls are so open that the issues you run into during a runout just aren't the same.

The main issue you will encounter on the 10 footer vs smaller tables is reaching balls, making shots, and stroke power. All of these are a bigger challenge than smaller tables. On the bar table you need to work to avoid blockers and that is just not as much of an issue on the 10 footer.

Reach is such an issue that you just can't play the same patterns that you could on a smaller table. You will get ball in hand and be preempted from placing the cue ball on the same side of the ball you would on a smaller table because its just unreachable or the shot is so long that it is not easy enough anymore. Basically the whole game changes and you will soon see why for pros accustats averages over .900 are rare on a 10 footer while on a 9 footer they are common.

The 10 footer I play on has all pockets of size 5.0". It has a TDF of 1.02 but overall it seems so much harder than my home 8.5' gandy with a TDF of 1.03. Your table is going to have a TDF greater than 1.15 and its going to be hard as hell because IMHO a 10 footer with TDF of 1.15 is much harder than a 9 footer of TDF 1.15.
 
I’ll offer a dissenting opinion: pool is pool. It’s just balls and a stick:) If you play bad on one size table you will play bad on all of them. If you play well on one size table you will play well on all of them.

Putting in 100 hrs of practice on a 10’ table won’t result in a greater improvement of your game compared to putting in 100 hrs of practice on a 7’ table. Same opinion of pocket size.

Buy what you like, but don’t expect to become better because it’s bigger/smaller/tighter/looser.

These are my free two cents:)
 
pw98 said:
I have access to a 10 foot brunswick and I will tell you what you dont want to hear. It is not going to benefit you going to a bar box. It will benefit you going to a 9 footer though. The only game I see that could give you benefit playing on a bar box is straight pool for bar box 8-ball. All the other games the balls are so open that the issues you run into during a runout just aren't the same.

The main issue you will encounter on the 10 footer vs smaller tables is reaching balls, making shots, and stroke power. All of these are a bigger challenge than smaller tables. On the bar table you need to work to avoid blockers and that is just not as much of an issue on the 10 footer.

Reach is such an issue that you just can't play the same patterns that you could on a smaller table. You will get ball in hand and be preempted from placing the cue ball on the same side of the ball you would on a smaller table because its just unreachable or the shot is so long that it is not easy enough anymore. Basically the whole game changes and you will soon see why for pros accustats averages over .900 are rare on a 10 footer while on a 9 footer they are common.

The 10 footer I play on has all pockets of size 5.0". It has a TDF of 1.02 but overall it seems so much harder than my home 8.5' gandy with a TDF of 1.03. Your table is going to have a TDF greater than 1.15 and its going to be hard as hell because IMHO a 10 footer with TDF of 1.15 is much harder than a 9 footer of TDF 1.15.
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I played with a 10" extension full time. My 10'er had 4 1/8 pockets
 
I have one. Yes it will help your game on any table by improving your alignment, stroke, and english habits. (and as mentioned you will definitely learn to respect the mid-point of the table for reaching your shot at the other end....) Doc
 
Smutzc said:
I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of our new 10 Ft Pro/am Diamond table with pro cut pockets. I am wondering does anyone else have a 10 ft Diamond, and does playing on the 10 footer give you an advantage when going to leauge and shooting on a 7 foot bar box?

I’m always trying to challenge myself, and by no means did I master our gold crown 9 ft. I can only think playing on a 10 footer day in day out would only help focus and accuracy. Any thoughts ?
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My thought is I am jealous. I have a 9ft and wish I could bought the 10 didn't have the width space. Your long game will improve no doubt. It might be frustrating at first on long shots. Smart move imo not to go tighter than 4.5, especially on a 10ft.
 
Smutzc said:
Back to my original comment does anyone have a 10 foot pro-am diamond? I have played on one briefly at Mike durbin’s place (custom cue maker). I fell in love with the difficulty of the big table, but I just don’t want to be demoralized to the point where I regret getting the table. Any input from someone who has a 10 foot diamond would be greatly appreciated
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i’ve played on a few and i’ve also shot snooker on a 12’.

i loved the experience and i always prefer small pockets, but the 10’ is demoralizing

accu-stats has a ton of video online on bigfoot. watching shane alex and dennis etc mess up easy shots and position play is enlightening

the statement i remember hearing is going from a nine foot to a ten foot is harder than going from a barbox to a nine foot
 
Great home room set-up! While I can see it being hard to part with your old buddy I would consider swapping the nine for a bar box. For several years I tuned on a snooker table most days and then went and gambled on bar boxes most of the time. I didn't have any adjustment problems playing every day.

I took a local hustler that was staying with me a few days to the snooker tale. No experience on one so the first twenty minutes or so were brutal but I did coach him, I had learned on my own. When he started potting a few balls I took him to one of my favorite honey holes. His very first shot on a bar box he looked over at me and grinned. I just said "yeah" not many words required. For the first couple of hours the pocket would appear as big as buckets.

I also played a good bit on some old tens when I got a chance. Loved them. I must congratulate you on the Diamond even if I am a little jealous. I am unlikely to ever have room for one. If I did I would struggle between a pool table or snooker table. I find ten feet to be the ideal size for both.

Hu
 
Smutzc said:
I am anxiously awaiting the arrival of our new 10 Ft Pro/am Diamond table with pro cut pockets. I am wondering does anyone else have a 10 ft Diamond, and does playing on the 10 footer give you an advantage when going to leauge and shooting on a 7 foot bar box?

I’m always trying to challenge myself, and by no means did I master our gold crown 9 ft. I can only think playing on a 10 footer day in day out would only help focus and accuracy. Any thoughts ?
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If you are an average 7 foot league player a 10 foot table is only going to cause frustration.
 
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