10 year old runs 147 in drill, in ten minutes and change!

ShootingArts

ShootingArts

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There are several versions of this on youtube. One has a commentator that needs to be turned down, this one has annoying graphics early and late in the video but the main part is very watchable. First thing that stands out of course is the boy is ten years old and shooting like he is twenty-five! Some good coaching obviously but also obvious the coaches let him find his own way a good bit. He one strokes every shot! I would say the over two foot bridge he has sometimes is a mistake until he pockets the ball perfectly. He gets out of line a few times too and is upset. Each time he regroups and shoots his way back inline!

I think this video is food for thought considering several discussions going on right now. What does he look at last? How did he get so accurate including speed control one stroking everything?

At ten he is a monster. He may lose interest in snooker or be one of the top few in the world by the time he is twenty, no way to know. A monster at ten seems to defy everything we know about learning to play though. He hasn't even been able to reach the table for very long. Most of his shots are neat controlled shots but when he needs a power shot he can whack the cue ball pretty hard and make it dance!

Long before the internet I had started one stroking and moving around the table fast to let my stroke flow and get rid of whatever was causing misses sometimes. This youngster makes one stroking look like the only way to do things.

Please watch, enjoy, and comment. Are there some things in his game we can bring over to pool? For starters I think he naturally has quiet eyes, especially since he hits the cue ball without warm-up shots. What else? Seems we should be able to learn from this ten year old who I have to call a natural. At ten I couldn't even run a rack on a pool table, this youngster shoots a 147 on a tough drill. He did have easier shots on a number ball sometimes but it was obvious from the beginning he was shooting for the max score.

Hu

1️⃣4️⃣7️⃣ FROM 10 YR OLD PLAYER! Matvei Lagodzinschii 147 | Snooker Training (T-BREAK) | - YouTube
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ShootingArts said:
There are several versions of this on youtube. One has a commentator that needs to be turned down, this one has annoying graphics early and late in the video but the main part is very watchable. First thing that stands out of course is the boy is ten years old and shooting like he is twenty-five! Some good coaching obviously but also obvious the coaches let him find his own way a good bit. He one strokes every shot! I would say the over two foot bridge he has sometimes is a mistake until he pockets the ball perfectly. He gets out of line a few times too and is upset. Each time he regroups and shoots his way back inline!

I think this video is food for thought considering several discussions going on right now. What does he look at last? How did he get so accurate including speed control one stroking everything?

At ten he is a monster. He may lose interest in snooker or be one of the top few in the world by the time he is twenty, no way to know. A monster at ten seems to defy everything we know about learning to play though. He hasn't even been able to reach the table for very long. Most of his shots are neat controlled shots but when he needs a power shot he can whack the cue ball pretty hard and make it dance!

Long before the internet I had started one stroking and moving around the table fast to let my stroke flow and get rid of whatever was causing misses sometimes. This youngster makes one stroking look like the only way to do things.

Please watch, enjoy, and comment. Are there some things in his game we can bring over to pool? For starters I think he naturally has quiet eyes, especially since he hits the cue ball without warm-up shots. What else? Seems we should be able to learn from this ten year old who I have to call a natural. At ten I couldn't even run a rack on a pool table, this youngster shoots a 147 on a tough drill. He did have easier shots on a number ball sometimes but it was obvious from the beginning he was shooting for the max score.

Hu

1️⃣4️⃣7️⃣ FROM 10 YR OLD PLAYER! Matvei Lagodzinschii 147 | Snooker Training (T-BREAK) | - YouTube
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And people wonder why pool in the US can't compete with a lot of other nations. This is why. Start 'em young and train them correctly.
 
The only correlation I can draw is to a 13yr old absolutely crushing everyone on a motorcycle track day.

Here I am, (and a bunch of adults) minding our own business on a track day thinking we're all that, and along comes this kid on a 2 stroke making us look like we're pushing our bikes down the track. This kid was amazing. Our conclusion... zero fear. He just went out and did what he was told to do. Go fast...
 
The_JV said:
The only correlation I can draw is to a 13yr old absolutely crushing everyone on a motorcycle track day.

Here I am, (and a bunch of adults) minding our own business on a track day thinking we're all that, and along comes this kid on a 2 stroke making us look like we're pushing our bikes down the track. This kid was amazing. Our conclusion... zero fear. He just went out and did what he was told to do. Go fast...
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I don't like encouraging children to do dangerous things before they know what death and injuries really mean. However when I was trying to decide between racing cars and flat tracking I was at the track when a van pulled up. Scooter Stafford, started racing at four, national champion at five. He was six now and was running that bike around the track like a pro practicing for an AMA event. At maybe seventeen I realized I was too old to start motorcycle racing!

Hu
 
BeiberLvr said:
In before some of the forum sticklers chime in with the "But, but, but...it's not real snooker!! You can't say he ran a 147 if it didn't happen in an actual game! Total clickbait!!"
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It's a shame you brought the reality of the feat back up.

There's a claim to fame that comes with manufacturing a 147. Although I most likely could never perform that 'T' drill to perfection, my odds in doing so are drastically higher than doing so within a frame.

That drill could just as easily had the yellow and the black in opposite locations, and the resulting score would have been 72. The end result of the drill is just as impressive. Which is a full table clearance = 36 consecutive shots using the yellow. The final score, not so much. The point is, the score is meaningless.

I know you and some others don't agree that 'manufacturing' a 147 carries any additional merit, but for some it does.
 
What else?
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1. He uses a long bridge.
2. His arm forms a bigger than 90 degree angle when he addresses the CB.
3. His follow through ends when his forearm points straight down at the ground.

You can see that in this shot:


It may seem like he is stopping his cue motion early to get out of the way of the draw, but as far as I can tell he stops his follow through at the same spot on all his shots.

I don't understand how you get your arm to stop when it is pointing straight down? Allison Fisher does something similar.
 
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A real solid performance. As others mention, the end score had no meaning.

It’s impressive the way he is focused on the task at hand.
I started playing at age 14 and may have accomplished this feat 1 out of 10 times by the time I was 18....

Hopefully this lad is revelling in his accomplishment and it remains fun and not a chore. I’ve seen videos of Snooker school in China and kids seem like they are stuck doing homework more so than enjoying the game.

A Chinese prodigy:

 
Back when me and the world were a lot younger I had a potential 147 stopped three balls short. I fired the five ball dead center of the side pocket and had perfect shape for tap ins on the six and seven. I had to shoot hard to get shape on the six and paid more attention to that than anything else after I saw the five split the pocket. I set my bridge to shoot the six and then noticed the five about a foot to the side of my bridge! Three balls from perfection or a million miles. I remember it as a fubar, not as an accomplishment. I was talking to one of the best snooker coaches in the world and a man that has ran his share of 147's when it counted. He tried to pump me up with "you almost ran 147!" Didn't mean a thing to me close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades!

Having said all that, the seven was set in its regulation spot and I have ran many a set of red balls that were no harder than that T pattern when I shot on a snooker table hours every day for a couple years. I was more interested in his style and technique than debating how hard or easy it was. He made some table length shots that are testers for adults. All in all, an impressive out! Those wanting to call it click bait might want to look at the title of this thread again. I have drill in the title and the title on the video says a T-Break in training. It isn't the same as a 147 in regulation play but nobody is trying to claim that. It is still a damned good start for a ten year old.

A perfect score from a T-break is still more impressive than over 99% of us have done or will do on a snooker table. I moved away soon after to a city without a snooker table and that near miss remains the closest I ever came to a 147. I can whine, but I shouldn't have put myself into the position I had to slam the five so hard! That old table had comparatively shallow pockets and the five hit bottom and popped right back out.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
I was more interested in his style and technique than debating how hard or easy it was. He made some table length shots that are testers for adults. All in all, an impressive out!
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Hell ya... impressive doesn't do it justice.

I know I could never move the ball around the we he did one stroking.
 
First of all it's not really a "147." It's a very well executed drill and an impressive performance by the young lad. I won't take that away from him. The question is - Where will he be in six or seven years? Will he be a young phenom on the Pro Snooker Tour or will he have fallen into oblivion. I guess I've seen too many young phenoms disappear to parts unknown in my lifetime.
 
Geosnookery said:
A real solid performance. As others mention, the end score had no meaning.

It’s impressive the way he is focused on the task at hand.
I started playing at age 14 and may have accomplished this feat 1 out of 10 times by the time I was 18....

Hopefully this lad is revelling in his accomplishment and it remains fun and not a chore. I’ve seen videos of Snooker school in China and kids seem like they are stuck doing homework more so than enjoying the game.

A Chinese prodigy:

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I like this kid's chances better. Just call it an educated guess.
 
What strikes me is how they encouraged and hugged him and loved him after he made the achievement. Seams like the boy is in a nurturing environment that will give the young guy a solid starting point in life to be a successful member of society in what ever area he pursues.
 
jay helfert said:
First of all it's not really a "147." It's a very well executed drill and an impressive performance by the young lad. I won't take that away from him. The question is - Where will he be in six or seven years? Will he be a young phenom on the Pro Snooker Tour or will he have fallen into oblivion. I guess I've seen too many young phenoms disappear to parts unknown in my lifetime.
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Every title acknowledges this is a drill. It isn't the same as a 147 in the finals at the Crucible but still a very impressive performance in a drill. Two minutes into the video he had a much easier shot on the six than the seven. He shot the seven making it plain he was going for a maximum. No time to rewatch the whole thing but I think there are several more times when he chose the harder shot over one that would have kept the drill alive but cost him the maximum score. That was one of the impressive things to me, the maximum wasn't a fluke. He was going for it maybe even before he had hit the first ball. He was very hard on himself for getting inches out of line a few times.

Like you say about these phenoms, he may be a star in ten years or he may have moved on from snooker and barely remember his time playing. Unlike young pool phenoms he at least has a viable path to fame and fortune if he stays with snooker. Too soon to say what paths his life will take. I can think of some number one's and two's in pool at his age that moved on to other things. Considering where pool is I have to say that is a good thing. I wish the US had the same to offer young people in any cue sport. Pool, snooker, even those games where they never pocket a ball, it would be nice if we could tell a young person that they could make a career with a cue in a decent environment. That may be possible with artistic pool, definitely we don't offer much to competitors today. Right now I daydream of a men's tour where the 32 highest ranked player could net $30,000 to $40,000 a year without a sponsor. Just a daydream!

Hu
 
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