110 Year Old Patient Arrived At My Clinic

Send it to me for a second opinion.
You might be unaware of the impact factor correction for the janka scale on pool
cues greater than 100 years old, once the patient is screwed together a few times.
The changes to the medical treatment techniques for these ailing Brunswick patients
will be a major topic in discussion groups at future biomedical conferences.
That's no shit

Obviously a second opinion is warranted. Thank you for the offer. :smile:

Although the patient is stable, he is currently in isolation so we can't transport him.;)

Besides, with the emergence of telemedicine, consultation can be made over the web. Like right here. :smile:
 
Frankly, I am stunned at the quality of the splice and veneers.

What is really cool about cues from around the turn of the last century is that the joinery was essentially hand-made in many cases. I can't find pix on short look, but there are plenty showing BBC cue factories with guys sawing splices with a handsaw!. They were advertised (again with pix) as hand-planed. IOW like snooker cues are today, not lathe turned.

I'm only a hobby cue maker, but a pro woodwhacker with exposure to millwork and furniture from mid 1700's forward: I have a real problem with the received perception of cue finishes. I really doubt most were using anything but shellac before about 1925. That approximate date is when nitro lacquer finishes (which did sort of exist before as more or less home-made sealers for brass metal) became commercial finishes for automobiles, and then took the furniture business by storm.

Given the trades in small scale shops where wood was finished, I have a strong suspicion that shellac remained the dominant finish for small items right up until just after ww2. 50's on, acrylic was invented (doesn't yellow, but otherwise not as good as nitro on wood) so any guess as to finish becomes a bit more muddled.

Before ww2, I'd bet on shellac for most if they were not factory made. Factories were about the only places that could afford the capital for compressors and spray equipment, and the waste of product, and dedicated finishing space for lacquer, which is really not superior to shellac anyway.

BTW, by shellac, i mean fresh made from de-waxed flake, not the stuff in a can with an inch of wax in the bottom before it's stirred. OTOH, shellac before ww2 in commercial settings may or may not have been de-waxed. Orange was a common grade, and that is seldom dewaxed. (though individual users can do so by settling and decanting a few times.) Seedlac was used for some commercial furniture because it gives a dark stain and was dirt cheap. Probably not used for cues.

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Thank you.

I believe by this time (this cue) they were using lathes, but indeed their tools were in general more basic, more primitive, less precise, and with less automation.

The lathes and other rotating machines were belt driven often from a central rotating distribution point that could be water driven, steam driven, or other methods. They could even be pedaled or turned by horses..

I am speaking in general terms of the era, not the Brunswick shop.

Skilled hands can do amazing things with a good saw, sharp chisels, and a hand plane.

Thanks for the comments about the finishes as well.

In addition, remember the were using primitive glue. :eek:

We see a number of these old cues with the veneer glue failing and the points separating. I was especially amazed at the quality and condition of the veneer glue joints.

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I took the cue to the pool hall yesterday and played a few racks. Plays very nice. Hits really hard. I let an old timer try it out, he really appreciated that. Great fun really.

Seems to be laser straight, in fact that point really blew me away. I am so impressed with the condition.

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I took the cue to the pool hall yesterday and played a few racks. Plays very nice. Hits really hard. I let an old timer try it out, he really appreciated that. Great fun really.

Seems to be laser straight, in fact that point really blew me away. I am so impressed with the condition.

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That might be the longest damn joint screw I have ever seen. Lol. Very nice find Doc. Thank you for posting the photos. :cool:
j2
 
That might be the longest damn joint screw I have ever seen. Lol. Very nice find Doc. Thank you for posting the photos. :cool:
j2

Most of my old cues have very long skinny pins. Even up into the 50's and 60's.
 
I took the cue to the pool hall yesterday and played a few racks. Plays very nice. Hits really hard. I let an old timer try it out, he really appreciated that. Great fun really.

Seems to be laser straight, in fact that point really blew me away. I am so impressed with the condition.

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Older Wood seem to hit the best, I understand hit is subjective. Friend had what he believe was a Balabushka. He let me hit a few balls with it, the Cue hit was like a 40 Ton Semi Bumping a VW Bug.

Several year later the Cue was sold to a collector, it was later authuthenicate to be a real deal Balabushka, got a restoration. Now the collector has the Cue, it is part of a families collection of fine Pool Cues.
 
Older Wood seem to hit the best, I understand hit is subjective. Friend had what he believe was a Balabushka. He let me hit a few balls with it, the Cue hit was like a 40 Ton Semi Bumping a VW Bug.

Several year later the Cue was sold to a collector, it was later authuthenicate to be a real deal Balabushka, got a restoration. Now the collector has the Cue, it is part of a families collection of fine Pool Cues.

Ah....Glenn I assume. :smile:

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I believe the dark wood is wenge.

The cue is an impressive survivor and I am glad you took her out for a few games!

It made the old girl's day
 
I believe the dark wood is wenge.

The cue is an impressive survivor and I am glad you took her out for a few games!

It made the old girl's day

Wenge been suggested and I believe you may be correct. Age and oxidation would darken it. It is darn near black but obviously not ebony.

The color is very even, very dark brown, I don't see any color variations in the grain, which could be with particularly dark wenge...especially very old very dark wenge that had a varnish, shellac, or lacquer on it.

The wood does still have some depth and luster to it, which I am sure would only improve if cleaned. But I am not inclined to do anything to it, even cleaning, at this point. Cleaning would bring out some of the grain color if it's there I think.

It is the oldest cue I have ever played. It was very cool. I definitely think the old girl appreciated it.

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send that old timer to my place

i love this cue
everything about this cue,the looks ,the funny butt,the screw in the wrong end

please sell it to me
dean
 
send that old timer to my place

i love this cue
everything about this cue,the looks ,the funny butt,the screw in the wrong end

please sell it to me
dean

Dean, I don't know you, and you don't know me, but I respect who you are by reputation.

I have to tell you that you saying that to me is the highest compliment. You know your cues.

I will tell you this; if not for a promise I made to another the cue would be on the way to you, no question.

I told a good friend that if/when the cue left my hands it would be into his hands. He, like me, appreciates the old wood.

It is my pleasure to own this cue. Truly a privilege to be the guardian of a little piece of history.

For now, it will remain in my collection.

My weakness is old cues. The history. I really dig that.

Respectfully, you are second in line on the dance card.

One day, perhaps what you have in your hands will pass through mine, and what I have in my hands will pass through yours. At the moment I have not yet found the ability to sell. You have. I hope you understand.

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