12 Years Since A Woman Won World Purses
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What about the IPT year?
I'm talking about the 30 overall. Johnnyt
Sorry- have no idea what u r saying.
I am not sure I get the title of the thread and what you mean exactly. Women players that got 100k in winnings in a year? Or 50K? Or is this about women that don't carry purses and don't travel the world?
I don't think a woman will ever again have the highest tournament winnings in a single calendar year, as Allison had in the year 2000.
She was head and shoulders above the other women at the time, and was winning the majority of the tournaments. Thats why she was so high on the money lists (that included the men). The men on the other hand, did not have as dominant a player, so the money was more evenly distributed amongst them in any given calendar year.
Fast forward to today, and there is not a single dominant woman player like in Allison's prime. The level of the women has increased, and there are many women now that can win tournaments. Hence, the money will be distributed amongst more women, and there will not be a woman at the top of the combined men + women money boards.
IMO.
She was head and shoulders above the other women at the time, and was winning the majority of the tournaments. Thats why she was so high on the money lists (that included the men). The men on the other hand, did not have as dominant a player, so the money was more evenly distributed amongst them in any given calendar year.
Fast forward to today, and there is not a single dominant woman player like in Allison's prime. The level of the women has increased, and there are many women now that can win tournaments. Hence, the money will be distributed amongst more women, and there will not be a woman at the top of the combined men + women money boards.
IMO.
Johnny is saying if you look at the yearly money lists on the AZ homepage, that show the combined 30 top players (both men and women), there has not been a woman at the top of that list since 2000. And this year, Kelly Fisher is threatening to break that trend.
The only person's salary that I care about is my own. Nobody else pays my bills. lol
Ah, OK then. Aren't most women tourneys, even in the same event, for less money? Would be a bit hard to go past the men if a mens champion gets 20k and the womans champ gets 15k.
So, in effect, the top mens player in the world is making what a top 20% engineer is making in Silicon Valley.
Thank you for decoding my thread. I reread it and all I can say is, it's a good thing my job is not writing instructions on how to put things together:embarrassed2: Johnnyt
Yes but they "work" far less, get to fly around the world, are treated like stars within the sport they play and have no direct boss to answer to. Plus they have the added benefit of being among an elite group of super skilled athletes among 7 billion people.
Not that bad a life. No one should feel sorry for a pool player. They can always trade that life for a day job if they want to. Many did and did very well at it.
The most admirable to me have been the pros who actually did hold day jobs and yet still managed to play world class and take down pro events. Now that's an accomplishment for sure.
Regarding the topic, if Kelly Fisher's sponsor bonus from Fury Cues of $40K for winning the World Championship is added in then she tops the money list this year.
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Thanks for the info on the 40k bonus from Fury Cues...I didn't know that. Good for her. Johnnyt
JB is right, but you can definitely find a more funny or humiliating way to put it. After all, there are unknown consultants making a thousand an hour, or corporations where the top executive makes more than all the men combined.
I like to put it like this:
The number 30 golfer in just about any given year makes more than the top 30 pool players combined. That may be true even if you include the pool player's sponsorship money.
The average plumber makes more than the #30 pool player. A good plumber makes more than the #20.
A major league umpire (any/all of them) makes more than probably any pool player on earth except the top 5 or 10 pool players, and MLB pays for his travel and other expenses.
You see I don't find it humiliating at all. Yes the pros in pool not paid as well as other sports or other professions. Garbage collectors make more money on average. But Garbage collectors have to get up every day at 4am and pool pros don't. Being on short money isn't so bad if you're free to come and go as you please.
Pool players have plenty of opportunity to make money playing tournaments, giving lessons, doing exhibitions, doing videosm writing books, etc... they can "work" as much as they want to and their income level is really up to them. They can be retailers and wholesalers. They can consult.
This is a profession where I refuse to feel sorry for anyone who chooses it. It's not all about the money. There are plenty of endeavors where people make far less money than pool players and still have to work 10-12 hours a day. Some of those activities are done for love of the activity, such as working for non-profits for a meager subsistence wage or out of necessity such as working two min-wage jobs to make the bills each month.
Now, this sport is one of the few where the average fan can easily contact and become friends with the professional players. You can hang out with them, you can get cheap lessons etc... why do we feel the need to belittle them and make them feel bad for the profession they chose. We all know that they aren't making a lot of money compared to most professions. We all know that when they fly halfway around the world or drive halfway across the country they are fading a room full of champions and have to place in the top five to make expenses. This is a truth that is evident so why do we need to state it every week in a different way?
Why not just simply agree silently to not worry about their finances and enjoy our access to them while we have it. If pool blows up and pros start making $100k for being 100th on the ranking list then great. We will then enjoy it like golf fans enjoy golf pros, from a distance. Until then let's be selfish and considerate.
Selfish that we can have access to the pros and considerate that we don't constantly remind them how little money they are making compared to others. Just a thought.
Pool players have plenty of opportunity to make money playing tournaments, giving lessons, doing exhibitions, doing videosm writing books, etc... they can "work" as much as they want to and their income level is really up to them. They can be retailers and wholesalers. They can consult.
This is a profession where I refuse to feel sorry for anyone who chooses it. It's not all about the money. There are plenty of endeavors where people make far less money than pool players and still have to work 10-12 hours a day. Some of those activities are done for love of the activity, such as working for non-profits for a meager subsistence wage or out of necessity such as working two min-wage jobs to make the bills each month.
Now, this sport is one of the few where the average fan can easily contact and become friends with the professional players. You can hang out with them, you can get cheap lessons etc... why do we feel the need to belittle them and make them feel bad for the profession they chose. We all know that they aren't making a lot of money compared to most professions. We all know that when they fly halfway around the world or drive halfway across the country they are fading a room full of champions and have to place in the top five to make expenses. This is a truth that is evident so why do we need to state it every week in a different way?
Why not just simply agree silently to not worry about their finances and enjoy our access to them while we have it. If pool blows up and pros start making $100k for being 100th on the ranking list then great. We will then enjoy it like golf fans enjoy golf pros, from a distance. Until then let's be selfish and considerate.
Selfish that we can have access to the pros and considerate that we don't constantly remind them how little money they are making compared to others. Just a thought.