This thread is worth a bump with the TAR 39 Rotation match tonight.
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15ball rotation filipino rules?
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some things:
if you dont have a clear shot on the object ball, you say "spot" - then your opponent shoots behind the line with the object ball on the spot.
if you foul (for example, you dont hit the object ball first), the opponent has a choice to shoot it as it is, or he can say "spot" - then that ball would be spotted, CB goes behind the line and he shoots it from there.
if you dont have a clear shot on the object ball, you say "spot" - then your opponent shoots behind the line with the object ball on the spot.
if you foul (for example, you dont hit the object ball first), the opponent has a choice to shoot it as it is, or he can say "spot" - then that ball would be spotted, CB goes behind the line and he shoots it from there.
Shane and Efren are playing first one to 60 wins the game but shouldn't it be first person who gets more than 60?
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They made it 60 to avoid the possibility of tie games.
61 actually, they can tie @ 60 each.
Where, if anywhere, are the rules that this match? I would love to see them.
Normal rotation rules is a race to 60 points with an extra point added for the last ball pocketed to avoid the tie. (I'm not implying that this is the rule they are following)
Please explain all the variations possible on a complete snooker (Incoming player can't see any of the OB).
I'm watching the video loop and I like this game.
Edit to add: How many frames are they racing to?
Normal rotation rules is a race to 60 points with an extra point added for the last ball pocketed to avoid the tie. (I'm not implying that this is the rule they are following)
Please explain all the variations possible on a complete snooker (Incoming player can't see any of the OB).
I'm watching the video loop and I like this game.
Edit to add: How many frames are they racing to?
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If it takes 61 points to win, the game can end in a tie at 60-60.
If it takes 60 points to win, the game cannot end in a tie.
They were playing to 60 points to avoid the possibility of a tie. And two of the games did end at 60 points.
Much of this game is luck and not much skill. The Philippine players I've seen just shoot real hard and try to slop something in. If the game was played with 10 ball rules it would be a great game, but they won't play it that way. This is the worst pool game I have ever seen. I like pool games that require skill to play and win.
Sounds like you really know a lot about pool. Lol.
I know this is an old thread, but had to post.
bountybuddy,
Not sure where you started playing pool, sure is not anywhere they play Rotation 61. I started when I was 14 playing 61 in the Dominican Republic (although I'm Italian), with the exact same rules (few exceptions) as in the Philippines and the majority of the Central and South America countries. I stop playing when I came to live in the US in 1984, getting back to it in the last 2 months and joined an APA league.
Official rules for the rotation 61 are too strict for the average player, I participated in various tournaments in DR and Puerto Rico, everything in that game is called, ball, pockets, safety and cushions, the purpose of this is to let your opponent and referee know exactly what you are about to do, to kill any slop or lucky shot as a result, I was also a referee for year and a half when not playing.
Apart from rules explained here, there are a few I would like to add:
- NO HANDICAPS
- Jump shots are illegal (balls should never leave the surface of the table).
- Ball in hand anywhere in the table is unheard of, only behind the kitchen line.
- Kicking is not allowed.
- Cushions are called, but only allowed when the object ball distance to the cushion is less than a ball size.
- When you can't see the object ball in turn, lets just say the 4 ball, then you ask your opponent to shoot the 5 ball, he can accept or refuse your request, if he refuses he must hit the 4 ball using only masè shots or curves as called by many (not jump) or using a legal cushion shot, if he hits it, he continues shooting, if he misses, you get to shoot twice, or allow to miss two shots.
- Miscueing and not hitting the rack when breaking is a fault, it is to the opponent to let you break again, otherwise he gets ball in hand behind the kitchen line.
- You always shoot in the direction of the object ball, not side ways or backwards to play safety. This is measure by touching the cue ball with one corner of a chalk and pointing the opposite corner towards the object ball, the 90 degree angle of the corner touching the cue ball is your legal space to shoot, extend an imaginary line to the edge of the table from the sides of the chalk that touches the cue ball.
- When pocketing a legal shot, other balls that are pocketed before what you called, gets spotted, after your shot, it counts.
- Only two safety shots per rack.
- Not hitting the object ball is a fault, your opponent gets to shoot twice from where the cue come to a stop.
- Absolutely no touching any balls with hands (except from breaking or behind the kitchen line), clothing or any part of your body when shooting, it is a fault, you loose your turn (no ball in hand for the opponent).
- Plus a few I'm forgetting
.
All of this makes you a more creative player, you learn to come up with more alternatives shots, expanding your skills.
So, bountybuddy, I'm willing to fly you to my town for free to prove me wrong or to prove your are right when you say that it doesn't take skills, as a matter of fact, I'm challenging you, I have a brand new 9' Diamond Pro Am table at home, no offense intended.
bountybuddy,
Not sure where you started playing pool, sure is not anywhere they play Rotation 61. I started when I was 14 playing 61 in the Dominican Republic (although I'm Italian), with the exact same rules (few exceptions) as in the Philippines and the majority of the Central and South America countries. I stop playing when I came to live in the US in 1984, getting back to it in the last 2 months and joined an APA league.
Official rules for the rotation 61 are too strict for the average player, I participated in various tournaments in DR and Puerto Rico, everything in that game is called, ball, pockets, safety and cushions, the purpose of this is to let your opponent and referee know exactly what you are about to do, to kill any slop or lucky shot as a result, I was also a referee for year and a half when not playing.
Apart from rules explained here, there are a few I would like to add:
- NO HANDICAPS
- Jump shots are illegal (balls should never leave the surface of the table).
- Ball in hand anywhere in the table is unheard of, only behind the kitchen line.
- Kicking is not allowed.
- Cushions are called, but only allowed when the object ball distance to the cushion is less than a ball size.
- When you can't see the object ball in turn, lets just say the 4 ball, then you ask your opponent to shoot the 5 ball, he can accept or refuse your request, if he refuses he must hit the 4 ball using only masè shots or curves as called by many (not jump) or using a legal cushion shot, if he hits it, he continues shooting, if he misses, you get to shoot twice, or allow to miss two shots.
- Miscueing and not hitting the rack when breaking is a fault, it is to the opponent to let you break again, otherwise he gets ball in hand behind the kitchen line.
- You always shoot in the direction of the object ball, not side ways or backwards to play safety. This is measure by touching the cue ball with one corner of a chalk and pointing the opposite corner towards the object ball, the 90 degree angle of the corner touching the cue ball is your legal space to shoot, extend an imaginary line to the edge of the table from the sides of the chalk that touches the cue ball.
- When pocketing a legal shot, other balls that are pocketed before what you called, gets spotted, after your shot, it counts.
- Only two safety shots per rack.
- Not hitting the object ball is a fault, your opponent gets to shoot twice from where the cue come to a stop.
- Absolutely no touching any balls with hands (except from breaking or behind the kitchen line), clothing or any part of your body when shooting, it is a fault, you loose your turn (no ball in hand for the opponent).
- Plus a few I'm forgetting
.All of this makes you a more creative player, you learn to come up with more alternatives shots, expanding your skills.
So, bountybuddy, I'm willing to fly you to my town for free to prove me wrong or to prove your are right when you say that it doesn't take skills, as a matter of fact, I'm challenging you, I have a brand new 9' Diamond Pro Am table at home, no offense intended.
I've never been to the Phillipines but, that's pretty much the same 15 ball rotation rules my father taught me in the 50's with the exception of the shoot again rule. Two handed 61 pts wins, 3,4,5 handed high points wins.
When I first started playing pool my friends and I would play money on the 5,10 & 15 balls, no points.
Dale